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89154, best replacement for 420a
Posted by SupraEclipse, May-09-05 06:55 PM
I just found out my engine is shot. I have a 99 gs and don't want to go back with the stock 420a. Any suggestions on a bolt in engine or what would be the best to do, rebuild with a high performance kit or go J-spec
89155, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by tim97rs, May-09-05 07:09 PM
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89156, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by totaleklipse97, May-09-05 07:10 PM
Originally posted by SupraEclipse
I just found out my engine is shot. I have a 99 gs and don't want to go back with the stock 420a. Any suggestions on a bolt in engine or what would be the best to do, rebuild with a high performance kit or go J-spec


ha, j-spec.... you made me laugh. Really there isn't anything to "swap". You can' build your 420a to your hearts content or swap in a 2.4 block (unless you really know your shit, don't think you do, no offense) but the 2.4 swap is no easy bolt in deal. Go to a junkyard or find a rear ended 420a eclipse and use the engine. You have the largest resource you can find on the web for the N/T eclipse.. I suggest you use it! There are 10,000's of posts that you can read and learn from on how to build your engine to do whatever YOU want. Start with a click on the search button.
89157, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by tim97rs, May-09-05 07:12 PM
you got one extreme of the answers possible.. now here the other:
im going to bitch slap you and your mamma for having you! that question will get you killed on this sight! now go away, you uncle bens cookin, cheesy-ass, ricer boy! And spend LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of time using the SEARCH function before you ever post on here again...if you want J-spec, buy honda
89158, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by DR1665, May-09-05 07:20 PM
Originally posted by SupraEclipse
Any suggestions on a bolt in engine


A billion dollars says you can get www.weberprecision.com/weberprecision1_015.htm V8 to fit in there. ;)
89159, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by SILVERNT, May-09-05 07:49 PM
Originally posted by DR1665
Originally posted by SupraEclipse Any suggestions on a bolt in engine
A billion dollars says you can get www.weberprecision.com/weberprecision1_015.htm V8 to fit in there. ;)


driggs, you get the award for coolest thing of the day!
89160, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by ShadowWulf, May-09-05 08:12 PM
Quick, lets Dyno it!
89186, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by DR1665, May-10-05 05:53 AM
Originally posted by SILVERNT
Originally posted by DR1665
Originally posted by SupraEclipse Any suggestions on a bolt in engine
A billion dollars says you can get www.weberprecision.com/weberprecision1_015.htm V8 to fit in there. ;)
driggs, you get the award for coolest thing of the day!


:thumbsup
89176, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by cougar694u, May-10-05 04:04 AM
Originally posted by DR1665
Originally posted by SupraEclipse Any suggestions on a bolt in engine
A billion dollars says you can get www.weberprecision.com/weberprecision1_015.htm V8 to fit in there. ;)


That's tight. It's like 1:63.1 of my engine (I wish). I wish I had skills like that. I'd have the meanest go-cart on the street, and a mini Boss Hoss.
89161, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by bubsy12, May-09-05 08:22 PM
WOW one post and you already made yourself look bad.... LOL @ J-Spec

options are in order of difficulty:

1-Build and boost 420a
2-2.4 Swap
3-Speak to the guys @ RedefinedRides.com about their 4g63 AWD swap.
89162, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by DSMRoadster, May-09-05 08:58 PM
fuck that I say go Jspec. Call up one of them importers and ask for a JDM engine. I believe an SR20DETT engine fits, I've seen it done.
89163, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by CarbonFiberRST, May-09-05 09:31 PM
Originally posted by DSMRoadster
fuck that I say go Jspec. Call up one of them importers and ask for a JDM engine. I believe an SR20DETT engine fits, I've seen it done.


it does, that is what i have in mine, every part of the motor is carbon fiber. thats why i made this my user name...
89164, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by 420a-Tnthewerks, May-09-05 10:03 PM
I'm not going to bash you cause you don't know any better, but I will say I hope you have two, maybe three flame suits on hand.

89166, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by destruckeclipse, May-09-05 10:29 PM
Originally posted by 420a-Tnthewerks
I'm not going to bash you cause you don't know any better, but I will say I hope you have two, maybe three flame suits on hand.


Lol. I think your best bet is just to get a mechanic to swap in a new / used 420a, and be done with it. Search around a study up on the possible build ups, then choose your path.
89171, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by SupraEclipse, May-10-05 01:56 AM
Ok first off I didn't come up here to get slammed by anyone, I don't know jack about eclipse engines or rice engines in general. I've been more of a v8 person putting over 10 grand in my camaro. I just needed advice not ure smart mouths.
89172, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by powellds, May-10-05 02:32 AM
:eek :nono
~Jeffo


Hey, have you seen my tail lights? Yeah, well get used to looking at them.
89174, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-10-05 03:46 AM
Originally posted by SupraEclipse
Ok first off I didn't come up here to get slammed by anyone, I don't know jack about eclipse engines or rice engines in general. I've been more of a v8 person putting over 10 grand in my camaro. I just needed advice not ure smart mouths.


wow, the newbie is getting fresh... well bro, let this be a lesson to you. whenever you have a question use that search button like none other, and if you still cant find an answer then post... you will learn much through the search function
89175, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by cougar694u, May-10-05 03:54 AM
Originally posted by SupraEclipse
I've been more of a v8 person putting over 10 grand in my camaro.

What a waste of money, and probably runs low 12's, high 11's.

You're getting flamed because you posted without reading or searching. You stepped into the fire without a fire suit and wonder why you got burned.

The 95-99 GS/RS is basically made by chrysler, it has a dodge neon motor in it with a different head. The chrysler 2.4l will bolt up, but it requires fabrications and rewiring.

You don't like their smart ass remarks, but I bet you learned to search before asking an ignorant question again, didn't you?
89270, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by alain95i4, May-11-05 11:40 AM
Originally posted by DSMRoadster
fuck that I say go Jspec. Call up one of them importers and ask for a JDM engine. I believe an SR20DETT engine fits, I've seen it done.


sr20det are really hard to find just 1 week before the Race Wars :+

Alain
89173, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by Kirby, May-10-05 03:07 AM
Originally posted by SupraEclipse
I just found out my engine is shot. I have a 99 gs and don't want to go back with the stock 420a. Any suggestions on a bolt in engine or what would be the best to do, rebuild with a high performance kit or go J-spec



Dude don't listen to these pricks GO J-spec, you won't regret it a bit bro, J-spec all the way... 4 life baby...
Or you could live your name and put a supra motor in it....
The guy's above are correct, there is no smart swap, so you should build your 420a..
89177, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by tim97rs, May-10-05 04:09 AM
Originally posted by SupraEclipse
I don't know jack about eclipse engines or rice engines in general.


apparently you know enough to wanna go "J-Spec"... or did you just see that in a magazine and thought it sounded cool?
89185, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by thedawg, May-10-05 05:41 AM
Personally, I say go JDM. Sure it's not as fast as a J-spec engine, but it's smog legal.
89187, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by a_miller_76, May-10-05 06:13 AM
89223, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by powellds, May-10-05 03:37 PM
Originally posted by a_miller_76



That's some funny shit! I love it here. :owned

~Jeffo


Hey, have you seen my tail lights? Yeah, well get used to looking at them.
89230, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-10-05 04:40 PM
I just dont understand how DSM owners get a rap for being assholes... :shrug
89231, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by 97eclipse97, May-10-05 05:23 PM
i dont wanna ruin everyones fun here, but we all must remember that at some point, we knew as little as him (how many of us thought we could just buy a nt, and then swap in a turbo from a 4g63)
the only thing is how many knew to search before they asked a question they thought was legit??

so i say before we go scaring away newcomers, just answer their question as simple as possible, tell them they should use the search, and be on their way.

that is all.
89232, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by DSMRoadster, May-10-05 06:33 PM
YOU CAN SWAP IN A "4G63 TURBO". It's been done. Look through the archives. However I am more forgiving at someone who ask if we can swap a 4g engine in there rather than someone who came in here asking about a JDM/Jspec engine. Only tells me one thing. You bought a 420a eclipse for all the wrong reasons. Use search Supraeclipse. Just think of this as a fraternity hazing. Take your licks and move on. Afterall, it's just a grain of salt. You'll find a wealth of information from searching. I hardly ever post a problem about my car because it would already be fixed from using the search button. You will learn a lot from this sight. You learn a lot more when people point out your flaws right?
89236, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-10-05 08:33 PM
Originally posted by DSMRoadster
YOU CAN SWAP IN A "4G63 TURBO". It's been done. Look through the archives. However I am more forgiving at someone who ask if we can swap a 4g engine in there rather than someone who came in here asking about a JDM/Jspec engine. Only tells me one thing. You bought a 420a eclipse for all the wrong reasons. Use search Supraeclipse. Just think of this as a fraternity hazing. Take your licks and move on. Afterall, it's just a grain of salt. You'll find a wealth of information from searching. I hardly ever post a problem about my car because it would already be fixed from using the search button. You will learn a lot from this sight. You learn a lot more when people point out your flaws right?


I agree completely, i think we all(or atleast i know i did) got flamed and lectured like this at some point when we were BANME!s. just like he said, its like a fraternaty. take it like a man and move on. you've learned the search is key, and that will most likely prevent anything like this from happening again(unless you get really excited about something and spontaniously post about it... uuhh who's ever done that?? :shrug )
89245, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by whodatt1, May-11-05 04:06 AM
sorry one thing is to not know (a situation most of us were at at one point)another is to be lazy and just ask a retarded ass question without even bothering to read up on the basics of the car gets on everyones nerves.
89258, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by Ducking_Fumbass, May-11-05 07:23 AM
I think that somebody should make a section where we put questions like this. Maybe it could be called "Things we've seen before," and it could live at the top of the forum.

Just a thought...
89259, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by a_miller_76, May-11-05 08:13 AM
Originally posted by Ducking_Fumbass
I think that somebody should make a section where we put questions like this. Maybe it could be called "Things we've seen before," and it could live at the top of the forum. Just a thought...


Yeah that's invisible to newbs. I never posted this. I let the dealer laugh at me when I went there to get a "turbo system price quote"
89282, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by tim97rs, May-11-05 01:50 PM
im tellin ya... we need to have a "entrance process" to be a member of 2gnt. ya cant post or read untill you take a quiz on the rules of the sight, or at least demonstrate how to use a mock-up search button...
89302, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by CustomGS, May-12-05 04:51 AM
Originally posted by tim97rs
im tellin ya... we need to have a "entrance process" to be a member of 2gnt. ya cant post or read untill you take a quiz on the rules of the sight, or at least demonstrate how to use a mock-up search button...


I AGREE, And this guy does deserve to get flamed. I was a member here for a year before my first post. Its not that hard to avoid asking RETARDED questions!

DUDE- ORDER THAT JDM CRATE MOTOR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!! IF YOU CANT FIND A GOOD ONE, I SHIT OUT A B16 THE OTHER DAY THAT YOU CAN USE, DROPS RIGHT IN BIAAATCH.
89303, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by Keith2172, May-12-05 06:00 AM
and now he's on his third day of flaming, he's not even responding anymore, give it a rest guys, he's either learned his lesson or never coming back. Me votes this thread be locked.
89304, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by techboy, May-12-05 06:42 AM
I don't know if this is possible with programing or not ... but maybe if when you try to make your first post you get re-directed to the "Things we've seen Before" or something like that?? I'm sure Admin thought of something like before and maybe it's not possible and that's why it doesn't exist?? I agree with above ^^^^, this should be locked at this point.
89319, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by MiztahfooLish, May-12-05 10:50 AM
In before the thread lock...?
89327, RE: best replacement for 420a
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, May-12-05 02:42 PM
Ok Guys relax i will translate for our "challenged" newb

So what this guy is saying is that he spend 10,000 in his camaro, got a couple tickets, couldnt afford to drive it becasue of gas prices, insurance, and he is a broke ass. His parents made him sell the car to some 16 yr old that wrapped it around a tree because he thought it was a good winter car and to top it off his parents want their 10,000 he put in the car back. He now has to fix up a 4 cylinder because the insurance is too high on a kamaro and he is getting kicked out in a month.

Nothing against camaro's, they serve as a good car for all the dumb fucks who think they "know how to box" to work on.

Eh he should save some money for the weak rear end GM put in the f-bodies........

Terry