OKay. I'm sitting there puffin a fatty, while in from of the gutted halfbreed (my car) :P

My buddy, (a welder and owns the silvia) is like, " We should mounnt the motor in the rear, just keep it so the tranny is on the drv. side, SOMEHOW mount the front suspension in the rear, figure a way to mount the engine and tranny right in the back seat area, figure out how to tie the front steering and control arms together, figure out how to hook up a shifter linkage, run a shitload of wire and voila!! mid-enigne, rear wheel drive eclipse :) Easy"

just like that. he said it.

I loled HARD and said "Okay, do it"

me lols again.

So whe go over to the block and measure the width, incl the oil pump width, and the bellhousing and figured it to be 17.5 + 2.25 + 19 = 38.5" wide.

there is roughly 36" between the rear strut mounts and ample the back seat for the motor to sit. Now the large 28" bottom mount that the tranny bolts onto would mount just at the point where the front of the rear seat is (like if you were sitting in the back, where the back of your knees were, :shrug does that make sense??) and extends into the rear spare wheels well. barely.

we then measure the axles and sorry to say, it would almost fuckin work. :shrug

The whole time I'm telling him, I can't believe we're actually talking about it. :shrug

anyways, i then brought up, "how are you going to run 10' of coolant line to and from the rad? okay......and the shifter linkage......ummmm what else.

lol.

Please discuss.......I don't know if anyone has "actually" measured something like this out or anything....ya know.


flame away......but remember.

I love you all dearly. :P

buy my rolling chasis and go for it :thumbsup

*points at blizare* haahaahaa

If your serious about cutting up your car to try it, maybe you should get ahold of the guy who did that in his first gen w/ the 4g63.

Originally posted by WickedESi
*points at blizare* haahaahaa If your serious about cutting up your car to try it, maybe you should get ahold of the guy who did that in his first gen w/ the 4g63.

thats vinny, he has a twin engine talon. lives pretty close to me

Originally posted by SILVERNT

Originally posted by WickedESi *points at blizare* haahaahaa If your serious about cutting up your car to try it, maybe you should get ahold of the guy who did that in his first gen w/ the 4g63.

thats vinny, he has a twin engine talon. lives pretty close to me

call him up!

ok so this pits are closed and we have to deal with this nonsense in other forums?

;)

come on now.. i dont come here for this craziness

Originally posted by siueclipse
ok so this pits are closed and we have to deal with this nonsense in other forums? ;) come on now.. i dont come here for this craziness

gimme a break James.

Like I said, has anyone ever actually measured anything?

Originally posted by Blizare

Originally posted by siueclipse ok so this pits are closed and we have to deal with this nonsense in other forums? ;) come on now.. i dont come here for this craziness

gimme a break James. Like I said, has anyone ever actually measured anything?

dude, since you started by measuring and made all this commotion, you have to actually try it. :P

ive been actually trying to figure a way to convert my gst spyder to awd but nothing as crazy as that. go for it.

Originally posted by bigmcell
ive been actually trying to figure a way to convert my gst spyder to awd but nothing as crazy as that. go for it.

That's been done. Local guy here in Phoenix. Puts abour 400awhp down. There's a video in the pits somewhere of it.

Originally posted by DR1665

Originally posted by bigmcell ive been actually trying to figure a way to convert my gst spyder to awd but nothing as crazy as that. go for it.

That's been done. Local guy here in Phoenix. Puts abour 400awhp down. There's a video in the pits somewhere of it.

yeah i know its been done b4. i wish i could do it to mine tho, but the $$$ is an issue

Originally posted by DR1665

Originally posted by bigmcell ive been actually trying to figure a way to convert my gst spyder to awd but nothing as crazy as that. go for it.

That's been done. Local guy here in Phoenix. Puts abour 400awhp down. There's a video in the pits somewhere of it.

There is also a guy here in South Florida who is converting a 2gNT into a AWD with a 4g63.

http://www.cardomain.com/id/diegogst

Originally posted by DR1665

Originally posted by bigmcell ive been actually trying to figure a way to convert my gst spyder to awd but nothing as crazy as that. go for it.

That's been done. Local guy here in Phoenix. Puts abour 400awhp down. There's a video in the pits somewhere of it.

yup. John Huh of Prostreetonline for one.:


http://www.dsmregistry.com/detail.php?carid=403

Originally posted by 420a-Tnthewerks

Originally posted by Blizare

Originally posted by siueclipse ok so this pits are closed and we have to deal with this nonsense in other forums? ;) come on now.. i dont come here for this craziness

gimme a break James. Like I said, has anyone ever actually measured anything?

dude, since you started by measuring and made all this commotion, you have to actually try it. :P

lol.

yea the only problem I have is cutting up my car. The whole drivetrain and motor is sitting there beside it. lol

Originally posted by Blizare

Originally posted by 420a-Tnthewerks

Originally posted by Blizare

Originally posted by siueclipse ok so this pits are closed and we have to deal with this nonsense in other forums? ;) come on now.. i dont come here for this craziness

gimme a break James. Like I said, has anyone ever actually measured anything?

dude, since you started by measuring and made all this commotion, you have to actually try it. :P

lol. yea the only problem I have is cutting up my car. The whole drivetrain and motor is sitting there beside it. lol

like i said, buy my GS :).

Find a rough Chassis for cheap Blair. Contact Vineet Singh on ChicagoDSM (lives 5mins from me), that is who chris is talking about and he can help you with some of the trial and error points. At this point he runs a twin engine but i know he mounted the front crossmember in the rear and i would suspect the entire front suspension as well but i am not sure exactly to what extent.

Terry

Just start hacking shit up and then if it doesnt work out, have your buddy weld everything back together lol. i say go for it haha!

Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Find a rough Chassis for cheap Blair. Contact Vineet Singh on ChicagoDSM (lives 5mins from me), that is who chris is talking about and he can help you with some of the trial and error points. At this point he runs a twin engine but i know he mounted the front crossmember in the rear and i would suspect the entire front suspension as well but i am not sure exactly to what extent. Terry

WOW.


I should do this. lol

A lot of work but shit, a RWD 420a!!

Originally posted by Blizare

Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon Find a rough Chassis for cheap Blair. Contact Vineet Singh on ChicagoDSM (lives 5mins from me), that is who chris is talking about and he can help you with some of the trial and error points. At this point he runs a twin engine but i know he mounted the front crossmember in the rear and i would suspect the entire front suspension as well but i am not sure exactly to what extent. Terry

WOW. I should do this. lol A lot of work but shit, a RWD 420a!!

I like em better with a 350 northstar conversion lol to bad its not a 2g

anyone have pics of the twin engine talon?

Evan B
97 GS- FOR SALE
90 GSX-sold
Stamford CT
EvMan2345@aol.com

EDIT: I think that's Mike's car in the left of that picture. Who else would be there with a completely stock looking RS? ;)

Who else? Ummmmm... Todd!

Also, if you actually got this done, and you wanted to add weight to the front to balance it, then just think how much this car is going to weigh... they are already heavy enough.

Originally posted by Blizare
OKay. I'm sitting there puffin a fatty,

Hmmm? Is this kinda like how every bad redneck story starts with "So I was a little drunk and..." j/k

Go for it if you have the funds, why don't you do the radiator in the rear with some sort of scoop/ram air system to it, how does the MR2 do it? If your buddy is a welder then linkage should be cake, clutch should be easy with a slave cylindar. The only real problem I see with it is money, time, and keeping your sanity.

I've thought of trying to make a RWD 420A for a long while..but never even touched on the idea of a mid-engine thing.... I think you should get another chassis to try with tho, so you dont feel guilty..hell, while you're at that get the 2.4, turbo it, and throw it back there!!! :)

Originally posted by DarkTalon
I've thought of trying to make a RWD 420A for a long while..but never even touched on the idea of a mid-engine thing.... I think you should get another chassis to try with tho, so you dont feel guilty..hell, while you're at that get the 2.4, turbo it, and throw it back there!!! :)

haha, yah, make a 2G wheel stander, then take it to the shoot out, and do 1/4 mile wheelie :eek

HAHAHA....

no man, hell no

I think you guys are underthinking the whole thing. The whole weight distribution of the car would be completely screwed up. Plus I'm sure the suspension design of the car isn't expecting that much weight in the rear of the car so that screws up your struts and spring rates. Not to mention that IF you ever got it in there it'd probably oversteer severely.

Oh BTW, you aren't the first person to come up with that one either. :)

Originally posted by Avenger
Oh BTW, you aren't the first person to come up with that one either. :)

Yeah...aren't there a few threads of this in the advanced section too?

Call up Jesse James... they would do it for free and air it on monster garage!!!!

actually its a stupid idea and probably woulndt work so nobody in their right mind would actually do it... but then again thats why we have beer and weed so i say go for it!!!

Originally posted by ajcfalcon
Call up Jesse James... they would do it for free and air it on monster garage!!!! actually its a stupid idea and probably woulndt work so nobody in their right mind would actually do it... but then again thats why we have beer and weed so i say go for it!!!

Thats what I wanted to hear.

Encouragement.

wooooters.

Originally posted by Avenger
I think you guys are underthinking the whole thing. The whole weight distribution of the car would be completely screwed up. Plus I'm sure the suspension design of the car isn't expecting that much weight in the rear of the car so that screws up your struts and spring rates. Not to mention that IF you ever got it in there it'd probably oversteer severely. Oh BTW, you aren't the first person to come up with that one either. :)

it would understeer like a mother... all the weight on the back wheels, none in the front. oversteer would be the least of this abomination's worries. I say do it to a 1G non-turbo nobody cares about, not a 2G that is in prime shape with money already invested into it.

one way to solve the front to rear weight ratio would be to put the gas tank up front. Granted youll have to add some more weight to it just to balance it but the tank full of gas should do a decent job.

until you get into a head on collision LOL

Thura I have seriously spent many hours thinking about this project, even putting a lot onto paper nad measurements; weight distributon would be the majority of the work IMO. The suspention would would need to be sent to a chassis shop to have the valve rates calculated and then specs sent to Koni for custom valving. Koni will revalve the shocks for a price to your specs. Custom axles would be a necessity especially if you went with a 4bolt rear spindles and kept the rear knuckles. The issue with that may be strength. If you used the front there would be the tubular arms fab'ed up the make the rear solid (no turning).

Thats about all i am realy gonna say. If i were to ever start such a project i would want all my info secret. But until hell freezes over or i have more time........

Terry