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75265, unorthodox or AFX
Posted by ajcfalcon, May-27-04 06:07 PM
i only looked at howell's site at the AFX, which goes for $140 W/ the belts. how much is the unorthodox and where can i get it?

has anyone had experience with both of them that can tell me which one is better. ive heard good things about both, and the AFX is easier to install because its only 1 piece....

anyone have any input on this?
75266, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by totaleklipse97, May-27-04 06:11 PM
Originally posted by ajcfalcon
i only looked at howell's site at the AFX, which goes for $140 W/ the belts. how much is the unorthodox and where can i get it? has anyone had experience with both of them that can tell me which one is better. ive heard good things about both, and the AFX is easier to install because its only 1 piece.... anyone have any input on this?


i haven't had both so i can't compare... but just so you know the UR is basically one piece too. If you want u just have the option of taking off ALL the belts very easily.


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75267, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by fungul, May-27-04 06:12 PM
I have an AFX and I like it alot. From what I hear the unorthadox is less of an underdrive which means less HP gain. Also I'm pretty sure the AFX is only like 120 now. Either one will be just as much of a bitch to install as the other because the hardest part is taking the stock pulley off.

Hope this helps
75268, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by totaleklipse97, May-27-04 06:20 PM
this topic has been beat to death over and over and over again... i may be nice about it but others may not. PLEASE USE THE SEARCH!!!!! each has it's pro's and con's... one is more underdrive one weights less no one that i know of has dyno'ed the difference sooo blah who cares it's like maybe 1/4 of a horsepower difference if any. Just go with what you get a good deal on, i got my UR for $100 so that is what i got!

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75276, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by SILVERNT, May-27-04 07:49 PM
There is another option,
http://exileracing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=215_248_234&products_id=399
the price is a little higher than afx, but there is no pressing or pulling involved at all. The pulley slips on, and secures to the crank sprocket with 3 bolts. With this pulley, you will never need a pulley puller ever again. Colors are red, blue, and clear anodized.
75282, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by injendsm, May-28-04 05:24 AM
www.turbotechracing.com sells unorthodox parts.
75284, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by oRACLe063, May-28-04 05:31 AM
i have heard complaints about tore up belts with the afx ... ive had the unorthadox for give or take 2 yrs ... belts are fine engine and crank are fine its a good buy imo
75290, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by injendsm, May-28-04 09:07 AM
Originally posted by SILVERNT
There is another option, http://exileracing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=215_248_234&products_id=399 the price is a little higher than afx, but there is no pressing or pulling involved at all. The pulley slips on, and secures to the crank sprocket with 3 bolts. With this pulley, you will never need a pulley puller ever again. Colors are red, blue, and clear anodized.


whats the power gain from yours in comparison to afx and unorthodox?
75292, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by DR1665, May-28-04 09:17 AM
Originally posted by injendsm
Originally posted by SILVERNT There is another option, http://exileracing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=215_248_234&products_id=399 the price is a little higher than afx, but there is no pressing or pulling involved at all. The pulley slips on, and secures to the crank sprocket with 3 bolts. With this pulley, you will never need a pulley puller ever again. Colors are red, blue, and clear anodized.
whats the power gain from yours in comparison to afx and unorthodox?


There is no power "gain" from UDPs bro. They free up power to the wheels and allow the engine to rev quicker. :thumbsup
75309, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by injendsm, May-28-04 06:20 PM
Originally posted by DR1665
Originally posted by injendsm
Originally posted by SILVERNT There is another option, http://exileracing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=215_248_234&products_id=399 the price is a little higher than afx, but there is no pressing or pulling involved at all. The pulley slips on, and secures to the crank sprocket with 3 bolts. With this pulley, you will never need a pulley puller ever again. Colors are red, blue, and clear anodized.
whats the power gain from yours in comparison to afx and unorthodox?
There is no power "gain" from UDPs bro. They free up power to the wheels and allow the engine to rev quicker. :thumbsup


i know they free up power, thats what i meant. im just trying to figure out what gains are from the freed hp.
75310, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by turbo8u, May-28-04 06:24 PM
probly gain 10hp
75296, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by AFX_Manufacturing, May-28-04 10:23 AM
Originally posted by ajcfalcon
i only looked at howell's site at the AFX, which goes for $140 W/ the belts. how much is the unorthodox and where can i get it? has anyone had experience with both of them that can tell me which one is better. ive heard good things about both, and the AFX is easier to install because its only 1 piece.... anyone have any input on this?


We believe ours is the best, and we actively support the 2GNT community

75300, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by turbo8u, May-28-04 12:14 PM
Originally posted by AFX_Manufacturing
We believe ours is the best, and we actively support the 2GNT community


what the fuck is this, vending in a thread? :wary

75301, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by Michael_97RS, May-28-04 12:24 PM
Originally posted by turbo8u
Originally posted by AFX_Manufacturing We believe ours is the best, and we actively support the 2GNT community
what the fuck is this, vending in a thread? :wary


The post is partially asking about his product...



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75302, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by turbo8u, May-28-04 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Michael_97RS
The post is partially asking about his product...


its asking about opinions and obviously AFX is going to be biased to say theres is better. vending in a thread saying your product is "better" = :thumbsdown

75303, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by DarkOne, May-28-04 01:06 PM
Originally posted by turbo8u
Originally posted by Michael_97RS The post is partially asking about his product...
its asking about opinions and obviously AFX is going to be biased to say theres is better. vending in a thread saying your product is "better" = :thumbsdown


But it IS better. He's allowed to hawk his wares here. We don't have rules against that.
75304, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by turbo8u, May-28-04 01:14 PM
Originally posted by DarkOne
Originally posted by turbo8u
Originally posted by Michael_97RS The post is partially asking about his product...
its asking about opinions and obviously AFX is going to be biased to say theres is better. vending in a thread saying your product is "better" = :thumbsdown
But it IS better. He's allowed to hawk his wares here. We don't have rules against that.


ok so when a thread comes up "VT 2.2 vs the howell 2.2" and VT comes in and is like OURS IS BETTER...no one can say shit.

75340, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by DeanoD, May-29-04 01:16 PM
If you want a pulley and that is all, buy the AFX. If you want a pulley that is capable of changing, then buy unorthodox. I had an AFX for years and didn't have any problems with it. I now have an unorthodox due to needing the Tec 3 ignition crank trigger wheel mounting capability. Unorthodox also has a race setup that allows you to remove the pulley and slap on an alternator only pulley as well. Probably take 20-30 minutes to swap.

75361, RE: unorthodox or AFX
Posted by DarKReaLity, May-30-04 07:19 AM
the thing i like better about the unorthodux is that you don't have to use a puller to remove it when it comes down to timing belt changing, it has 3 bolts that you just remove and the outside portion just slides right off. it's also not a risk of bending it when using a puller. i can't compare to the AFX's 'cause i heavn't tried it, but it's good enough for me. i noticed a difference.