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7420, AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by XtremeRS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Well, thats all i can say! I didn't expect replacing the timing belt
to be such a bitch!! I don't think the mitsu engineers and the chrysler engineers got together when they decided to put that motor into the clipse!! There is NO room to do nuttin! I was wondering if anyone would like me to make a how-to on doing this, since the FAQ timing belt thing sucks, and doesnt really tell much on how to do this with the motor in the car. There were severl big problems i ran into, so anyone really interested, let me know and i will make a how-to on it! Oh yeah, i started working on it at 1 pm, and worked straight through till almost 9:45. I replaced: timing belt, alternator, tensioner pulley, timing belt idler pulley, acc belt idler pulley, and new AFX underdrive pulley, and drive belts. I also had the use of a car lift, and air tools, and it still was time consuming. @ 58000 miles, the timing belt that was on there,i believe was original, had a faint chrysler symbol on it so not sure, but it was in very good condition, looked like it had many more thousand miles it could go. There were no leaks from any oil seals nor water pump, so i decided to let these go for now(hopefully will not bite me in the ass later) Well anyone want a how-to???
7421, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by 1TuffRS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Yeah man, if you could make a how-to it would be nice. Im only at 41,000 miles, but it would be great to know what I will need when the time comes
7422, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by 99GS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Yeah, I would like to see a how-to as well. I was gathering parts to do the 60K service this week.




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7423, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by 1TuffRS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I know we have to change the timing belt, but what else needs to be done @ 60k miles????
7424, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by DarkOne, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Water pump, idler pulley, timing belt tensioner, flush coolant, etc.. 60,000 miles maintenance calls for several things besides the timing belt.

A write up, with pictures if you took any, would be most excellent. We can add it to the main page and i'm sure many people would find it helpful to have!
7425, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by XtremeRS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM

Cool guys, I'm writing it up now! Unfortunately, i did not take any
pics, but i will try to get one of my fact pulley after i destroyed it! lol damn i fu%$ed it up! So after i am done writing this, how do i get it posted??? Who do i send it to, or what? I've never posted a how-to befor so any info???? thanks guys
7426, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by DarkOne, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
You can email it to me or post it on the board.. We'll get it added to the main page for you.
7427, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by Michael_97RS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
There is no room in any car tjhat the 420A is installed in, Neon as just a s little room top work with. I'll love to see a write up since I'll be doing a head swap in the future and will have to doo all the timing belt removal... ugh... not looking forward to it.

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7428, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by eclipse804, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Is a new water pump and idler pulley necessary? I only changed the timing belt and tensioner pulley...that's it...we don't have a balance belt do we?
7429, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by DarkOne, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Nope, no balance belt.

Scheduled maintenance on the water pump is 60,000 per the owners manual. I've heard horror stories about waterpumps locking up and shredding belts, etc.. but the fact is if it goes, you've got to take all the same things apart as you did when you did your timing belt. If you're doing the belt, it's maybe another 15 minutes of work to put in the water pump. Why risk it?
7430, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by eclipse804, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Damnn I did my timing belt at 47k miles, but didn't do the water pump. So has anyone's water pumps lasted to about 100k miles? Since that's probably when I would do a timing belt maintenance again...Actually, at this rate, by the time I hit 100k miles my car will be nearly ten years old. By then, it will only be worth 2-5k like the 1g's are worth now...
7431, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by guest, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I think its worth $300 to have a shop do it. And if you have a shop do it have them throw on the AFX underdrive pulley too.
7432, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by Thunderous_Talon, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I actually ended up doing mine by myself a couple weeks ago. I just replaced the belt tho, i didnt bother with the cam seals since i've got another head sitting in my room which i may end up selling, might be buying rays. the Afx pulley wasnt that hard to get off to redo the belt. gettign that cam gear cover off was a bix tho.
7433, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by XtremeRS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Yeah guys, i typed out a install how-to and sent it to the admin.
Hopefully they will get it up here soon! Oh yeah, it would have cost me 400 bucks at satan to do my belt, and that does NOT include things like pulleys or whatever. I figure all i replaced would have cost me around at least a grand. But i only suggest people do this if they are somewhat mechanically inclined, and are good with tools. Check out my post, when its up, and you will see the probs i ran into(yep one of em is that fu%kin timing belt cover!). later!
7434, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by esi420, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Formula for changing timing belt:

Large bottle of aspirin
Bandaids
Chiltons(but watch out when is says remove the side motor mount......)
Tools(of course)
Lots of beer and LOTS of patience

Later


7435, RE: AHHHH!!! Dat was a BI&* ch!!(timing belt)
Posted by Fast420A, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM

>Chiltons(but watch out when is says remove the side motor
>mount......)


Why do you say that?



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