Okay, I know it's been discussed to death, but anything new in this area? I remember talk of an AWD PT Cruiser that might give us means to convert our cars, but has any more news come of this one?

-Corey

No

If you really, really want to do it, there is an AWD late model Chrysler minivan that uses a a670 3spd transaxle (SOHC Neon Auto), think its a caravan. You'd have to use a manual valvebody set in the transaxle, and custom gear the rear end to match the drive ratio of the front, but in theory, it's possible.

But at what cost, and will the hard parts in the PTU and diff hold any real power?

Yeah, I knew of the auto swap from the caravan, I just wouldn't go automatic personally. Ah well, figured I'd ask...

-Corey

Apply turbo kit and make the minivan your racecar IMO.

Let me find a job that will enable to finish my goals for *this* car (my daily driver, '97 Talon) and then when I'm done maybe I'll do that :P

-Corey

Here is an idea or concept i have had for a while just no time to actually put it to use and frankly i am too cheap :)

Keep your 420a engine dump the head. get an awd turbo eclipse trans transfer case and rear end. you say the awd tranny wont fit out engine ok make a 1 inch billet adapter plate. it can be done i know so. ok next the clutch issue.....a gsx clutch disk will fit into out mod unit so split the mod unit and place the disk inside and bolt together. Here is question number one.....awd trans is designed to use a pilot bearing....the wil be none...will the awd trans bearign support the shaft or will a custom bearing need to be made.

Custom motor mounts. Gsx axles, speed sensor will be an issue. use all factory gsx trans mounts. will need gsx crossmember for the front. will need to relocate ECU, battery, poss custom bracket for P/s. ok the engine will also sit one inch closer to the frame at the crank pully so timing belt jobs may require pulling engine. will need gsx shifter cables, may need to rebend p/s lines or use hydraulic hoses, reroute all harnesses for motor.

will need gsx clutch master slave ect. will need to design custom sheetmetal intake so intake is in the rear of engine.

As for the billet adapter plate not sure how much that would run...A GUY IN BARTLETT IL makes them so he can put the LT1 and northstar in a fiero so he would be a resource for that part. Really would need to set the 420a and 4g63 block next to each other to take measurements so clearance can be calculate for the driverside frame rail.

This would be expensive no doubt but imagine the looks on gsx owners world wide. hehehe the 420a would never get knocked again. If i didnt have an antique car i would attempt this just for bragging rights once it works. The onyl issue that may become a problem is the speed sensor wiring.


Terry

oops i said dump the head...you would need a neon head to locate the intake ports to the rear of the engine.

Terry
96 Eagle talon ESI
rear disk conversion Star Stage II - Optima locate in the hatch - momo Steering wheel - Boost/oil/EGT gauges, HKS TT

97 Eclipse
Greddy header/evo exhaust - Stage 2 6 puck Sprung hub MIBA clutch - Shortened shifter - Koni Yellows w/eibach prokit - Stillen Fr/Rr swaybars - DEI Keyless entry alarm - Niche 17" Shoks

Waiting to be installed: Apexi AFC, HKS EVC IV, ceramic intake, 450 Turbo injectors, SFMU/return line, GSX Front brakes (need rotors)

Or you could just take the a670 to forwardmotioninc and see if they can rebuild it.

Or you could be practical. :shrug

Originally posted by Uberingram
Or you could be practical. :shrug

or get an awd 2.4l turbo pt cruiser and a mbc... :+

well the jeep has a 2.4L and its 4wd, so thats an idea too
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fwd is pretty cool, but awd is fun. make the best of what you have.

what about an evo tranny? the engine is the same direction in them... find one that was wrecked, make whatever kind of adapters that are needed and wallah! well, sounds easy, but its an idea
doug

The motor spins the wrong way. You would wind up with 1 forward gear and 5 reverse gears. If you can deal with that, then go for it. :D That's why the DSM tranny would work better, the 4G63 still spins the other way, but reversing the 420a will make for 5 forward gears and one reverse gear.

-=B-=

holy shit guys if your gonna go that far just sell it and buy the damn turbo!

buy a gsx retaaaaaaad

Originally posted by GhEttOrAiD
buy a gsx retaaaaaaad

its RETARD....tard

:P



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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca


as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone

silent souls leave .308 holes