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72631, Catback Posted by Evil98GS, Apr-10-04 04:37 PM
would it help or hurt and can i use an aftermarket cat back system for a turbo eclipse?
and does anybody know how good DNX systems are?
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72633, RE: Catback Posted by 96eclipse2nr, Apr-10-04 05:35 PM
hurt yes never heard of em
and search for further discussion
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72637, RE: Catback Posted by silvereclipse30, Apr-10-04 06:34 PM
not if its 2.5 piping....lil less bottom end very nice gain up top....
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72638, RE: Catback Posted by ajna_star, Apr-10-04 06:49 PM
it will help...
good catback (greddy, apex'i, magnaflow) show gains and NO low torque loss, dyno proven...
never heard of dnx, but i wouldnt put no name shit on my car. u get what u pay for.
and it would help a turbo
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72643, RE: Catback Posted by 96eclipse2nr, Apr-10-04 07:39 PM
ajna, i said hurt because look at his mods....he dosent have a turbo. and his future mods include a header... 3" turbo catback will kill his power
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72645, RE: Catback Posted by silvereclipse30, Apr-10-04 08:23 PM
not all turbo exhausts are 3" bro.....
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72649, RE: Catback Posted by Uberingram, Apr-11-04 01:35 AM
Originally posted by silvereclipse30 not all turbo exhausts are 3" bro.....
Really?! :-o
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72652, RE: Catback Posted by eclipse_99rs, Apr-11-04 04:38 AM
DNX is a new company But i think it might just be rice but i would like to be proven wrong.
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72655, RE: Catback Posted by injendsm, Apr-11-04 04:50 AM
Originally posted by eclipse_99rs DNX is a new company But i think it might just be rice but i would like to be proven wrong.
im pretty sure they are rice. just look at one of their ads in a car magazine and judge it for yourself.
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72664, RE: Catback Posted by silvereclipse30, Apr-11-04 07:36 AM
Originally posted by UberingramOriginally posted by silvereclipse30 not all turbo exhausts are 3" bro..... Really?! :-o
no reason to be a dick I was helpin the guy.....
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72665, RE: Catback Posted by Justin99RS, Apr-11-04 07:51 AM
lets set this straight right now..a 3" catback WILL IN NO WAY hurt power...any catback for us will show a gain, an NO LOW END LOSS WHATSOEVER..backpressure is fallacy and is complete BS...the faster an exhaust gas can get out the better..period...our cars just don't make a lot of power with a catback, at most you'll see 1-2hp, but the added release of gas pressure will make you more efficient and help out other mods in the end...for example- i had a freind with an ACR neon...his mods were header, 3" CATBACK, cai and udp...ran a 14.70 in the 1/4 dyno tested 135FWHP....
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72675, RE: Catback Posted by ajna_star, Apr-11-04 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Justin99RS lets set this straight right now..a 3" catback WILL IN NO WAY hurt power...any catback for us will show a gain, an NO LOW END LOSS WHATSOEVER..backpressure is fallacy and is complete BS...the faster an exhaust gas can get out the better..period...our cars just don't make a lot of power with a catback, at most you'll see 1-2hp, but the added release of gas pressure will make you more efficient and help out other mods in the end...for example- i had a freind with an ACR neon...his mods were header, 3" CATBACK, cai and udp...ran a 14.70 in the 1/4 dyno tested 135FWHP....
dood, you are -completely- wrong...
i was looking at dynos of a 3" n1 on a NT... it showed a 3whp gain in the upper rpms above the 2.5" n1.... and a -15- ft/lb loss in the mid rpms..
15 ft/lb loss
AND dynos show a 5-7 hp gain depending on the brand...
magnaflow-5 greddy- 5-6 apex 6-7
& a neon is ALOT lighter than a 2gnt... and geared better
quit talking all that shit, cos you really are giving out false information....
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72677, RE: Catback Posted by turbo8u, Apr-11-04 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Justin99RS ..backpressure is fallacy and is complete BS...
lol, sippin on that n00b juice again are we?
"back pressure is fallacy"....
fal·la·cy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fl-s) n. pl. fal·la·cies A false notion.
"back pressure is a false notion"
??? :wary ???
no, its not.
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72689, RE: Catback Posted by Justin99RS, Apr-11-04 03:09 PM
different people have different views on this...i myself HAVE NEVER seen a catback lose torque...i showed a 2ft/lb gain on my 2.75" catback when i had nearly no mods...as for you turbo8U...i have been around a whole lot longer than you....and in my expereince with all types of cars...i worked in a tuning shop with a DYNO...and have NEVER seen a catback lose torque no matter what size...and i can assure you i can find at least 50 people to agree with me...so before saying i'm talking shit..maybe you should consider that not everyone shares your opinion...i spoke what i had expereinced...i DON'T respond to post unless i know what i'm talking about and you have to remember that not every car is the same..i have seen plenty of cars(including 2gnt's) dyno and show gains with larger catbacks...
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72694, RE: Catback Posted by ajna_star, Apr-11-04 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Justin99RS different people have different views on this...i myself HAVE NEVER seen a catback lose torque...i showed a 2ft/lb gain on my 2.75" catback when i had nearly no mods...as for you turbo8U...i have been around a whole lot longer than you....and in my expereince with all types of cars...i worked in a tuning shop with a DYNO...and have NEVER seen a catback lose torque no matter what size...and i can assure you i can find at least 50 people to agree with me...so before saying i'm talking shit..maybe you should consider that not everyone shares your opinion...i spoke what i had expereinced...i DON'T respond to post unless i know what i'm talking about and you have to remember that not every car is the same..i have seen plenty of cars(including 2gnt's) dyno and show gains with larger catbacks...
when copperclipse comes back, im gonna have him post his dyno graphs....
i dont care what your 50 people say, dyno graphs dont lie...
youll gain 1-2 more peak HP from a 3" catback, and you WILL lose a lot of mid range torque...
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72706, RE: Catback Posted by silvereclipse30, Apr-11-04 06:13 PM
so go slap on a 6 incher.....u won't lose any bottom end right???? my friend put on a 3 inch on his mustang and it ran like shit.....lost a lot of bottom power he went back to 2.5 and it was a lot better.......ur crazy if u think otherwise
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72716, RE: Catback Posted by Justin99RS, Apr-12-04 03:05 AM
like i said...everyone is going to think differently on this subject and thats that...you have your views and i have mine...i didn't lose any torque with a 2.5" header back (no cat) and i have almost no backpressure, hell i couldn't even tell a difference when i ran to the store with a completely open header with zero pressure..and my dyno didn't see ANY loss of torque ANYWHERE in the powerband..and no i don't have it on the comp so don't ask...i wasn't imposing my opninion on you..just offering a different view...so don't impose your view on me..cause frankly i couldn't care less what you think about...and no that wasn't aimed at anyone in malice...just my feelings..i have no hard feelings for anyone here..there i am done.
:cheers :beer
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72729, RE: Catback Posted by ajna_star, Apr-12-04 06:32 AM
Originally posted by Justin99RS like i said...everyone is going to think differently on this subject and thats that...you have your views and i have mine...i didn't lose any torque with a 2.5" header back (no cat) and i have almost no backpressure, hell i couldn't even tell a difference when i ran to the store with a completely open header with zero pressure..and my dyno didn't see ANY loss of torque ANYWHERE in the powerband..and no i don't have it on the comp so don't ask...i wasn't imposing my opninion on you..just offering a different view...so don't impose your view on me..cause frankly i couldn't care less what you think about...and no that wasn't aimed at anyone in malice...just my feelings..i have no hard feelings for anyone here..there i am done. :cheers :beer
its not about my view, opinion, and what i think...its about the truth...
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72733, RE: Catback Posted by injendsm, Apr-12-04 07:18 AM
2.5" for nt, 3" for boost. thats all you need to know.
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72735, RE: Catback Posted by ajna_star, Apr-12-04 08:59 AM
Originally posted by injendsm 2.5" for nt, 3" for boost. thats all you need to know.
^^
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72739, RE: Catback Posted by silvereclipse30, Apr-12-04 10:03 AM
^^^^^
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72796, RE: Catback Posted by Evil98GS, Apr-13-04 07:01 AM
good christ thats all im gonna say.
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