Just wondering I need a little heads up I can get both....But I'm not sure which is better....thanks guys.

Poll question: Which is better.....

Poll result (20 votes) AEM CAI (11 votes) Vote ICEMAN CAI (7 votes) Vote Injen CAI (2 votes) Vote (0 votes) Vote (0 votes) Vote (0 votes) Vote

d. forced induction :thumbsup

AEM CAI imo, i had it before i was turbo and it kinda made a difference! lol
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iceman... doesnt heat, can use cold or short, comes with a k&n filter, AND its cheaper than aem or injen

we could go on forever but I'm done this will never go anywhere.....its been fun tho

I say AEM, it is very high quality and can be had for under $200 easy. It also looks very nice and comes with a K&N filter. I can't bash any intakes because this is the only one i have had experience with but it will make a noticable difference as well as sound and look nice. The AEM doesn't heat soak easily either, it isn't very warm after driving around a while.


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Yeh well ajna st4 just helped me find a iceman for 175...I thinkt thats a good deal

I have the injen that is real similar to the V2 and it sounds and looks amazing.......also it is very thick and doesn't heat soak...gave very nice gains

also I heard that the iceman is plastic...........I'd pass on plastic if that is the case

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
also I heard that the iceman is plastic...........I'd pass on plastic if that is the case

Its a cross-link polyurethane and its less heat conductive than metal intakes

injen > all other intakes imo but i am just a little biased.

I agree with Ajna Star, having experience with both AEM and iceman I've found the icemman to be better. The plastic is the reason for it's use and NO it won't melt whch is the dumbest thing I've EVER heard

does the battery kick its ass??? cuz no matter what they are gonna take a lil beating even if u fix the battery thing........

Yeah alittle bit but I put a 2"x2"x1/4" piece of high density foam in between the "elbow" and the battery...

I have an injen, had an aem...
liked the aem better.

which injen might I ask.....

I say u use dryer hose.....I hear its the best....y isn't that an option???

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
I say u use dryer hose.....I hear its the best....y isn't that an option???

Are you intentionally trying to pick a fight? I'll gladly show you up if need be. :wary

you got owned in the other thread, why get your ass owned AGAIN in this one?
:scratch

owned????hahahaha he had nothin to come back with.......he has auto and is wasting his time anyway.........

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
owned????hahahaha he had nothin to come back with.......he has auto and is wasting his time anyway.........

/me looks around
When did I get back over at toonerz? :scratch You're right. He should just sell it and buy the turbo, huh? :rolleyes

yeah, and he better make sure its a 5spd, or else its totally worthless to mod :rolleyes

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
he has auto and is wasting his time anyway.........

Your blatent disrespect for members here is quite disturbing. Unless you prove ideas wrong with FACT rather than your childish drivel, I suggest you move on.

Originally posted by Uberingram

Originally posted by silvereclipse30 he has auto and is wasting his time anyway.........

Your blatent disrespect for members here is quite disturbing. Unless you prove ideas wrong with FACT rather than your childish drivel, I suggest you move on.

Those were PURE FACTS BRO.....

Originally posted by silvereclipse30

Originally posted by Uberingram

Originally posted by silvereclipse30 he has auto and is wasting his time anyway.........

Your blatent disrespect for members here is quite disturbing. Unless you prove ideas wrong with FACT rather than your childish drivel, I suggest you move on.

Those were PURE FACTS BRO.....

Really? You have dynosheets for both sides of the arguement?! I must have missed those. Where did you post them?

Originally posted by Uberingram

Originally posted by silvereclipse30

Originally posted by Uberingram

Originally posted by silvereclipse30 he has auto and is wasting his time anyway.........

Your blatent disrespect for members here is quite disturbing. Unless you prove ideas wrong with FACT rather than your childish drivel, I suggest you move on.

Those were PURE FACTS BRO.....

Really? You have dynosheets for both sides of the arguement?! I must have missed those. Where did you post them?

I forgot that 5 speeds eclipses were slower then the autos

Originally posted by silvereclipse30I forgot that 5 speeds eclipses were slower then the autos

I quoted you the first time becuase you're attacking someone else. Your arguement is for DIY CAI vs. prebuilt one.

show me ur dynos???? and if this is just sooo awesome y doesn't everyone do it??? They don't cuz they don't wanna rig there car up....I would expect something like this from a civic ricer.....

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
show me ur dynos????

I asked YOU that question. Now you've gone and confused yourself.

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
and if this is just sooo awesome y doesn't everyone do it???

Some people choose the more extreme route...turbocharging. The others don't have over a 100 dollars to waste on an AEM/etc intake.

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
They don't cuz they don't wanna rig there car up....

I really don't know what to make of this statement. 'Rig' as in..how? Modify them? You're going to have to type clearly, son.

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
I would expect something like this from a civic ricer.....

Ahhh, stereotyping cliches. Bravo. I never would have expected this from you. :rolleyes


You are not welcome to attack members and I'll call you on it everytime. Show me a DIY CAI done correctly not working. That's all I'm asking from you.

actually, im betting a civic ricer wouldnt do this, cuz they would be like you silver, and waste 100 bux on a piece of shiny pipe
they wouldnt think of a smart DIY setup that provides the same benefits at like 10% of the cost. hell, they might think that brand X flows better and has more HP than brand Y cuz its polished brighter!

u can get off his balls anytime newbie......

uhhhh

Originally posted by ajna_star
uhhhh

ur sooo cool man.....

I know what u said to me and if ur positive it works SHOW ME.....

Lets ask how many people think there AEM or INJEN CAI is a waste.....

"Rig" Dryer hose inside ur engine bay would be "rigging something".....sorry u couldn't understand that

Also you have never called someone or something RICE or RICER........hahahhaa RIIIGHT

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
I know what u said to me and if ur positive it works SHOW ME..... Lets ask how many people think there AEM or INJEN CAI is a waste.....

If you were to actually read (god forbid in your case) these 2 threads you would see that I haven't actually said which I'm for or not. I'm on your case becuase you're an idiot. Prove me wrong. I'm asking you to justify (with numbers, not your own inane opinions) how a prebuilt CAI will perform better than DIY. So far you haven't done that and have only managed to be the typical no0b. Prove me wrong.

U SAID the AEM is a waste.....PROVEN READ WHAT U SAID.....now if someone really likes the dryer hose look hell go for it......my point is that I'm doubting that a dryer hose which isn't gonna flow very well its not straight and smooth is better then proven AEM or INJEN intake....end of story

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
isn't gonna flow very well its not straight and smooth

no, an AEM CAI sticks straight off the TB out of the fender, above the wheelwell. :rolleyes

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
U SAID the AEM is a waste.....PROVEN READ WHAT U SAID.....now if someone really likes the dryer hose look hell go for it......my point is that I'm doubting that a dryer hose which isn't gonna flow very well its not straight and smooth is better then proven AEM or INJEN intake....end of story

Uh oh, Uber = 48 No0b = 1. Kudos. However, I've been refering to DIY, not necessarily hose of some kind. ;) You almost made it kid. PVC will do the same thing at next to nothing on the cost and last I checked it's pretty smooth. lol. So, in your arguement of which produces the better ½ of a horsepower I "doubt" you'll see any gains and for that much money I think you lost out. Good shot though. In my honest opinion, they're both a waste. Like turbo8u said before, Forced Induction.

You think about opening your trap next time you tell anyone that they are wasting their time. It's not appreciated here as we are enthusiasts and will mod to our liking. There are plenty of auto's here that I'm are plenty faster than you, I'm sure. :) Just thought I ought to give you a heads up.

ur opinion thats awesome uber.....obviously forced induction is the way to go but if u all are complaining about buyin a quality CAI good luck affording a turbo kit......

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
ur opinion thats awesome uber.....obviously forced induction is the way to go but if u all are complaining about buyin a quality CAI good luck affording a turbo kit......

Any thought to those that cant afford this Amazingly better CAI?

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
ur opinion thats awesome uber.....obviously forced induction is the way to go but if u all are complaining about buyin a quality CAI good luck affording a turbo kit......

"QUALITY"

:scratch

Originally posted by Uberingram
:scratch

I said it was quality....nothin about it bein amazing in rescent posts....

dood you quoted yourself?
and you like, commented on yourself? :nuts

Originally posted by 97whitESi
dood you quoted yourself? and you like, commented on yourself? :nuts

^^ that made me laugh out loud... i almost lost my frosted wheat on the keyboard


*edit* good pics brian :)

Ah, I guess it was your odd move of quoting exactly what you posted in a previous statement. Go figure. :shrug

Based on all of this I still don't see anything showing me a prebuilt CAI being better than a DIY one, which I would probably build from PVC and then attatched to the front in some method. They would all have the same bends so I'm not seeing air velocity being a problem. Anyone else have useful information?

Originally posted by silvereclipse30obviously forced induction is the way to go but if u all are complaining about buyin a quality CAI good luck affording a turbo kit......

I would complain about buying a "quality CAI" because they are overpriced. Also, affording a turbo kit has absolutely nothing to do with turboing your car. I am in the process of turboing mine now, and am not buying a kit. Same priniciple. I won't pay for overpriced parts when I can do it myself cheaper. Also, making a "custom CAI" would allow you to save up for that turbo kit, so your logic is flawed. Did you even read the write up for the dryer hose set up, or do you think someone is just running some dryer hose to their throttle body? I would be willing to bet when done properly, it would have more power at speed than a traditional CAI due to pressure build up inside of the intake. But things like that can't be measured on the dyno. New ideas are what allow cars to continue being modded. If everyone did the same things, that would be no fun.

Originally posted by Dave41079
If everyone did the same things, that would be no fun.

Heh, I was waiting for someone to say that. :thumbsup

I quoted myself because of what u posted if u couldn't get that.....and I agree with the last comment posted....

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
I quoted myself because of what u posted if u couldn't get that.....

You're suggesting quality is defined by WHP gains? If so than you really haven't shown us DIY isn't quality. :shrug

quality by the way its built....I'm sure metal is a more durable then dryer hose which can be cut up pretty easy

That's just to get the pvc attatched to the side brake duct on the front of the car. Did you honestly think we'd be running dryer hose to the TB of the car? Hahaha It's for like 3-6 inches.

EDIT: This thread has been derailed enough. :P

obviously it didn't run to the TB that would look even more rediculous....

I guess mkiv.supras.org.nz/members/kevin.htm if they do that same mod then huh?



This is pretty ricey too. Translate www5.famille.ne.jp/~skinski/c-heatshield.htm and show me where he says he's embarrassed to have saved money by using dryer ducting to direct cool air to his air filter.





home.planet.nl/~marc.hesselberth/intake.htm I do believe he's got 321bhp going on here with his Swedish rice.




home.wxs.nl/%7Emarc.hesselberth/850turbo.html

So this is where I say I'll drop it, if you drop it, we agree to never discuss this ever again since we've both graduated from 3rd grade, go have one last smoke, and call it a night.

As turbo8u would say, "You're done."
:thumbsup

my point was that HE could never break out of the 17s without forced induction.....I'm sorry ur intellectually challenged

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
my point was that HE could never break out of the 17s without forced induction.....I'm sorry ur intellectually challenged

DUDE YOU'RE A MORON! Our cars are below 17 stock!

HAHAHAHA, rrrriiiigggghhhhtttt, my car doesn't go past 17's. I did a 15.9 with just gutted cat, aem cai, apexi n1 catback, and lowered. Research before you talk. Oh and BTW there is a guy (sorry not sure his name) that does 15.2 or 15.3 ALL MOTOR.

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
my point was that HE could never break out of the 17s without forced induction.....I'm sorry ur intellectually challenged

Like Uber said you've gone and confused yourself.

Your argument wasn't even about forced induction it was about DIY CAI vs manufactured and their comparable gain



stop breathing



You will most likely continue to be flamed for the duration of your stay with this arrogance you think you possess with your limited, basic knowledge of air density.

Shit, it's common sense.

Brian also left out that www.roadraceengineering.com uses ducting as well

I think you should take some time to think about all this princess

Originally posted by Skrilla
I think you should take some time to think about all this princess

pucker up! :*


We also know that talking shit on someone else's car by saying they shouldn't bother because of their engine or transmission is typical tonnerz bullshit and not many people here will let that shit fly. ;)

I wanna see some numbers of an auto breakin the 16s NT....let alone 15s....many 5 speeds r in the 15s thats a given....I would like to see some AUTO numbers please....if any are in the 15s I'm sorry and I was mistaken....

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
obviously it didn't run to the TB that would look even more rediculous....

ricer.

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
I know what u said to me and if ur positive it works SHOW ME..... Lets ask how many people think there AEM or INJEN CAI is a waste.....

my injen intake is the worst purchase i have ever made. right now its sitting in my house boxed up because i like the stock intake better...

I bet the 2.5" header back I'm going to be making from mandrel bends bought individually and generic aluminzed piping will not make as much horespower than a $500 Greddy cat back because I paid $425 less and did it myself too. :P

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This post started off as a vote.
Look at where it ended up... such a waste of space/information storage.

Thanks for ruining my Poll....:thumbsup

All thought there was SOME usefull info...to all you Fuckers who ruined it thanks and have a nice day...CHOADS!!!

i voted in your poll, before i didnt.
figure out who said something verry similar to that, and youll get an e-cookie