do you think this will be a tight fit by the firewall on our cars? this is from a neon BTW.

I personally dont think it will fit, if you can get some measurements we could tell ya.

Unfortunately, I don't think so. If the runners were cut a bit closer to the intake ports - maybe, but I think it would still be pushing it.


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This is mine...

Yeah, I looked at the first pics and thought..."where will the intake tubing go after the throttle body is on????"...in our cars

Originally posted by JustOne
This is mine...

dude that is awesome! do you have more pics of it? was it easy to make?

>do you have more pics of it?

These are all the pics I have at the moment.







58mm vs 68mm organ doner tb



>was it easy to make?

I didn’t make it, I bought it off Ray (PureRage) about 2 years ago. It is just a 4" tube that is welded to a flange and it bolts right to the lower part of the stock intake. Shortens the runners about 3-4" and the stock part is ported open to match gaskets. Mated to the intake is a 70mm mustang TB. I made the adapter plate for it because Ray had it made to accept a 75mm. Next to the turbo and the Quaife it was the best mod done to the car. And to all the guys who say intake isn’t and wouldn’t be worth it you should definitely give it a try. The whole power band is affected in a positive way. Turbo spool is way quicker, throttle response it WAY better and top end it ridiculous. But keep in mind that this mod is done to a car that has about every mod under the sun. I don’t think it would be as beneficial on a NA car. I chose 70mm because my intake pipes are 2.5" and that keeps everything the same size. The TB took some building on my part as it wasn’t a bolt on item.

Later
Brian

Originally posted by JustOne
I didn’t make it, I bought it off Ray (PureRage) about 2 years ago. It is just a 4" tube that is welded to a flange and it bolts right to the lower part of the stock intake. Shortens the runners about 3-4" and the stock part is ported open to match gaskets. Mated to the intake is a 70mm mustang TB. I made the adapter plate for it because Ray had it made to accept a 75mm. Next to the turbo and the Quaife it was the best mod done to the car. And to all the guys who say intake isn’t and wouldn’t be worth it you should definitely give it a try. The whole power band is affected in a positive way. Turbo spool is way quicker, throttle response it WAY better and top end it ridiculous. But keep in mind that this mod is done to a car that has about every mod under the sun. I don’t think it would be as beneficial on a NA car. I chose 70mm because my intake pipes are 2.5" and that keeps everything the same size. The TB took some building on my part as it wasn’t a bolt on item. Later Brian

man that is nice! 3-4" is a difference atleast, faster air is more power at higher RPM's regardless. wow so you have 70mm Mustang TB, are the sensors similar to ours or you reused the stock ones? man i'm thinking of doing the samething, it seems like it's worth it. i'm surprised you haven't dynoed your car yet? or have you? you should have awesome gains with that alone.

Originally posted by JustOne
And to all the guys who say intake isn’t and wouldn’t be worth it you should definitely give it a try. The whole power band is affected in a positive way.

Yeah, upper stage guys should definately venture into intake modification... with a mild p&p on my lower and upper plenum, as well as just a bored tb, I was sucking in a LOT more air up top (as well as all around probably). I bet Brian's mods ^^ above would yield good dyno #'s.

Originally posted by DarKReaLity
this is from a neon BTW.

Looks more like a dodge Daytona engine bay to me. The valve cover is off a 2.4L turbo (PT Cruiser or SRT-4), who knows what the state of that engine is. I don't know that I would trust this guy, it doesn't look like he's running the idler pulley on the timing belt.



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una salus victus
It's holding down the garage floor right now.

As for the sensors I have the stock TPS on and use the mustang's AIC. The TB has a valve that you can adjust w/ a hex wrench to fine tune your AI at idle. So I don't have an electrical AIC anymore. The only sensor on the TB is the TPS. For the TPS I had to do some work because the rod had different throttle position angles. I also had to build the part that the throttle cable goes to because the mustang one utilized a rod system.

No dyno yet...too long of a "to do" list.

Later Brian

Are you seriously saying, that from these pictures you can see the idler pully? shit, i have a hard time seeing it in first person. whatever. maybe im just a noob. Anyhow, that pcv hose is running awfully close to his timing belt though...

Originally posted by Michael_97RS

Originally posted by DarKReaLity this is from a neon BTW.

Looks more like a dodge Daytona engine bay to me. The valve cover is off a 2.4L turbo (PT Cruiser or SRT-4), who knows what the state of that engine is. I don't know that I would trust this guy, it doesn't look like he's running the idler pulley on the timing belt. Exile Racing Technologies: http://www.exileracing.com una salus victus It's holding down the garage floor right now.

ooops i think you're right, i didn't realize it 'cause i got that pic from neons.org and they mentioned that it come from a neon. so excuse me for the misinformation.

Lookign closer that may actually be an oldChrysler 2.5L bottom end and a new SRT-4 head..



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una salus victus
It's holding down the garage floor right now.

think you are right on the 2.5/srt hybrid... i beleive there allready was a daytona with a neon head +2.5 puting out an ungodly amt of torque on low rpm (498?? just under 500 ft/lbs low low in the powerband)