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Topic subjectEGR Fix, wrapped egr pipe, egr fuel economy effect.
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69273, EGR Fix, wrapped egr pipe, egr fuel economy effect.
Posted by jdeyo, Feb-24-04 06:56 PM
Like some of you I have been plagued with the EGR CEL and a malfunctioning EGR transducer. I have tried to block off the egr, trick the ECU to get rid of the CEL, but I am just not happy unless my car runs right. I have lived with this for over 30,000 miles. So, I went down to the local Chrysler dealer and ordered a new egr valve with transducer for ~$130. I also used header wrap to wrap the hot egr pipe because it has the tendency to melt the very important wiring harness below it.

Bad valve:


Carbon buildup:


Where does the egr valve go?


Heat wrap:


When I had EGR problems I could never get more than 300 miles to one tank full of gas. Now with this fixed and tested for 5000 miles or so, I can always break 400 miles on one tank....city driving... plus my highway mileage is crazy. I have nearly hit 500 miles, but I chickened out and filled her up. The EGR system may make the intake dirty, but its not that bad, plus I need the fuel economy.

-Jared
69275, RE: EGR Fix, wrapped egr pipe, egr fuel economy effect.
Posted by Initial DSM, Feb-24-04 07:03 PM
So the improvement in gas mileage was due to heat wrapping the Egr pipe, or replacing the malfunctioning transducer?
69277, RE: EGR Fix, wrapped egr pipe, egr fuel economy effect.
Posted by WickedESi, Feb-24-04 07:07 PM
I didn't like the EGR so I took that out. I didn't like the CEL either so I took that out too.
69282, RE: EGR Fix, wrapped egr pipe, egr fuel economy effect.
Posted by a_miller_76, Feb-24-04 08:25 PM
Originally posted by WickedESi
I didn't like the EGR so I took that out. I didn't like the CEL either so I took that out too.


LOL, same here. I never noticed a change in mileage after I took mine out :shrug
69283, RE: EGR Fix, wrapped egr pipe, egr fuel economy effect.
Posted by GhEttOrAiD, Feb-24-04 09:06 PM
Originally posted by WickedESi
I didn't like the EGR so I took that out. I didn't like the CEL either so I took that out too.


wait you can just... take it out? and... leave it out with no problems? lol
69284, RE: EGR Fix, wrapped egr pipe, egr fuel economy effect.
Posted by WickedESi, Feb-24-04 09:30 PM
Yeah, unless you consider a CEL code a problem. My engine runs a lot cleaner (breather tube disconnected from intake too), and I haven't noticed a change in gas milage (although I'm sure there is some because recirculating the exhaust burns any unburnt fuel).

You can get the MOPAR block off kit, or do like me and cut out a piece of 1/8" steel (w/ a acetylene torch or whatever) the shape of the egr valve, drill holes, bolt that one w/ gasket underneith to the head. Cut a soda can (I used grape soda) the size of the little pipe that connects to the intake manifold and place the little gasket under that and bolt it up.

Clean out your intake w/ throttle body cleaner or MCCC (mopar combustion chamber cleaner), and your engine will breath clean air as long as your PCV valve doesn't crap out.

Back to the topic since I hijacked this thread.
69290, RE: EGR Fix, wrapped egr pipe, egr fuel economy effect.
Posted by SilverRS, Feb-25-04 02:27 AM
Is the EGR that weird looking black thing that sticks out right by the motor on the intake pipe side? Also what is EGR? So you basically removed it and wrapped it with heat wrap, do you need to cover the hole or not? This has nothing to do with the breather valve right? Sorry if they are dumb questions.

Thanks
69297, RE: EGR Fix, wrapped egr pipe, egr fuel economy effect.
Posted by extreme97nt, Feb-25-04 03:14 AM
All he did was wrap the tube which gets hot from exhause gas with header wrap. I am many others just ripped it out and blocked off the holes. I also ripped out my cel because that was annoying too.

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fastest 2GNT with a hitch! until proven wrong...
69299, RE: EGR Fix, wrapped egr pipe, egr fuel economy effect.
Posted by SilverRS, Feb-25-04 03:47 AM
where is the cel and egr located on our cars? Sorry for the dumb questions.
69305, RE: EGR Fix, wrapped egr pipe, egr fuel economy effect.
Posted by djtrickee, Feb-25-04 04:36 AM
Originally posted by SilverRS
where is the cel and egr located on our cars? Sorry for the dumb questions.


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69306, RE: EGR Fix, wrapped egr pipe, egr fuel economy effect.
Posted by Eclipse97, Feb-25-04 05:02 AM
my egr was acting weird so I took it off and cleaned it real nice with tb cleaner. and put it back on.. its been working great for the past 4 months.
69308, RE: EGR Fix, wrapped egr pipe, egr fuel economy effect.
Posted by DR1665, Feb-25-04 05:32 AM
Here in Arizona, we like to pull it off, pump it full of that Castrol Degreaser (in the purple bottle) then scrub it out with a pipe cleaner and wire. We really like it when the pipe cleaner comes out Richard Dean-style with a HEEEEYYAAAAAHHHH! and sprays greasy shit all over the guy holding the pipe at the time.

Mine's still on, but I'll be removing it soon enough. Other idle issues need to be resolved first. :p
69309, RE: EGR Fix, wrapped egr pipe, egr fuel economy effect.
Posted by djtrickee, Feb-25-04 05:39 AM
Originally posted by DR1665
Here in Arizona, we like to pull it off, pump it full of that Castrol Degreaser (in the purple bottle) then scrub it out with a pipe cleaner and wire. We really like it when the pipe cleaner comes out Richard Dean-style with a HEEEEYYAAAAAHHHH! and sprays greasy shit all over the guy holding the pipe at the time. Mine's still on, but I'll be removing it soon enough. Other idle issues need to be resolved first. :p


Richard Dean??

Oh you mean...