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67995, Almost stalling
Posted by taloniized, Feb-06-04 02:19 PM
I was sitting at a stop light and all of a sudden my car almost stalled on me. It did it several times there after. What can it be?
67996, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by turbo8u, Feb-06-04 02:24 PM
IAC motor, running out of gas, etc.
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone

67997, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by MmmDeion, Feb-06-04 02:25 PM
also map sensor, cam/crankshaft position sensor, ^--- what he said, etc...
67998, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by turbo8u, Feb-06-04 02:27 PM
Originally posted by MmmDeion
also map sensor, cam/crankshaft position sensor, ^--- what he said, etc...


you'd more than likely get a CEL if it was for these. cam and crank control spark timing and fuel control, they either work...or they dont. and if they dont, good luck starting your car.

i'd pull out the IAC motor and clean it up with some engine cleaner or WD40 or something, probly fix her right up :thumbsup



_________
96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone

68001, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by taloniized, Feb-06-04 03:01 PM
IAC motor? Where's that exactly located?
68002, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by turbo8u, Feb-06-04 03:06 PM
its on the backside of the throttle body held on by two 8mm bolts (i believe) the clip for it connects from the bottom. it sucks i dont have a pic x( search around
_________
96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone

68021, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by mcgyvr, Feb-07-04 08:22 AM
yes just clean out all the crap from the throttle body and all its holes. also might want to run a little mopar combustion chamber cleaner through
68022, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by turbo8u, Feb-07-04 08:29 AM
Originally posted by mcgyvr
also might want to run a little mopar combustion chamber cleaner through


where on earth do you get that shit?! ive been lookin for it



_________
96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone

68031, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by DR1665, Feb-07-04 02:32 PM
Paul, I'll be getting together with JOhn tomorrow AM around 10 or so. He's got some shit to fix up (that chunk of fire hydrant he hit last month jacked his turbo up enough to snap all the studs in his manifold). Why don't you roll up and I can help take off the IAC and clean it while you help John do the turbo thing?

LAta
68035, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by taloniized, Feb-07-04 03:06 PM
Originally posted by DR1665
Paul, I'll be getting together with JOhn tomorrow AM around 10 or so. He's got some shit to fix up (that chunk of fire hydrant he hit last month jacked his turbo up enough to snap all the studs in his manifold). Why don't you roll up and I can help take off the IAC and clean it while you help John do the turbo thing? LAta


I already got it Brian. thanks anyway man. i didn't know john hit a fire hydrant. I'm playing golf tomorrow morning.
68037, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by DR1665, Feb-07-04 04:29 PM
You guys are always out golfing. :P
68047, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by run4cvr, Feb-08-04 05:17 AM
Originally posted by taloniized
Originally posted by DR1665 Paul, I'll be getting together with JOhn tomorrow AM around 10 or so. He's got some shit to fix up (that chunk of fire hydrant he hit last month jacked his turbo up enough to snap all the studs in his manifold). Why don't you roll up and I can help take off the IAC and clean it while you help John do the turbo thing? LAta
I already got it Brian. thanks anyway man. i didn't know john hit a fire hydrant. I'm playing golf tomorrow morning.


I didnt hit a fire hydrant just the top portion... Err.. Nevermind. I went back and picked up the piece so i will show you.
68056, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by taloniized, Feb-08-04 02:21 PM
I pulled the IAC motor and cleaned it. I even cleaned the whole throttle body while it was out and it's still doing it. Could the IAC motor just be bad and i need a new one?
68057, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by Nitrous_RS1997, Feb-08-04 03:48 PM
are you getting no CEL codes? id check/replace the plugs/wires if you havent already. check for wires shorting on your EGR tube. your IAC or Throttle Position Sensor either one could be bad and causing this as well. sucks when it happens without a CEL, cause then there are a TON of things that can cause a rough idle.


1997 Silver RS
Wiseco 8.8:1 Pistons(back to low compression!)
Eagle Rods
T3/T4 Turbo
Custom FMIC
Greddy Exhaust
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68062, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by MCubed45, Feb-08-04 04:26 PM
blah i'm having the same problem... car stalls every so often. sometimes when the cars moving too. it's kinda interesting to restart the car while it's cruising down the highway. no codes either for me... i already have aftermarket plugs, wires, and coilpack so i don't think it's that... ran some injector cleaner and that didn't help either. guess i'll try check the IAC? any other suggestions?

oh yea when my car dies all the lights in the cluster go out too... CEL included. my CEL's always on but it's for stupid unrelated stuff. is that normal for all the cluster lights to go out when it stalls?

haha sry don't mean to thread-jack but it sounds like the same problem :P
68080, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by DR1665, Feb-09-04 07:26 AM
You know, come to think of it, if the car want to die when driving, it could very well be frayed wires in the harness. My parent's Neon would just die if you took a right hander under power. The Harness across the back of the block had rested against the block too long and worn some wires through for the Crank Position Sensor. When you coasted around the rights, it would do okay, but when you gave ti part throttle, the wires would contact the block and short out, causing a stall.

Paul, I remember during your rebuild there was some sensor I saw that had a a nasty spot of fraying going on. I'm not sure what it was, but I was over there by the battery when I saw it, so you might double check that too.
68140, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by taloniized, Feb-10-04 08:44 AM
I can't figure out what it is. Can it be the TPS? The car died on me twice on the way to work this morning. It died as i was slowing down to make a stop and right before i stopped, it stalled.
68144, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by miedosoracing, Feb-10-04 09:23 AM
Do a couple of things to just make sure it isn't this. Take the spark plug wires out, and make sure that you aren't getting oil down inside the holes, which would kill your spark. Second, make sure that there isn't a air leak by listening to the throttle body while it is at idle. Then last, are your valve cover breathers open, or did you put on valve cover breathers. I had all of these things happen at different times. The valve cover breathers filled up with oil, and killed my engine some how. As soon as I cleaned them, it drove fine. I mounted them in a upward position to keep it from happening again. I guess they filled up with oil, and the engine pressure was building up, and the computer didn't like it.
68159, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by taloniized, Feb-10-04 12:13 PM
Well I changed the O2 sensor (before cat), TPS, and IAC motor and it's still there. I don't know why but i keep thinking it's my fmu going bad. anyone?
68240, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by SilClipse95, Feb-11-04 12:07 PM

could very well be the ecu...mine did that for a while...it sat at the mechanics for a while (because i was dumbfounded as to what it could be) after about a week they finially figured it out that it was my ecu...replaced it, and now my car runs better than ever....
68241, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by taloniized, Feb-11-04 12:24 PM
I found one of my vacuum lines that was connected to that black box at the back of the block to the intake manifold to be broken in half. It was bearly hanging together. I hope that's what it is after i replace it tonight. I hope it's not the ecu, don't wanna have to pay for that.
68286, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by SilClipse95, Feb-12-04 03:36 AM
actually u can usually find used ones on here for pretty cheap....(i got one for 40(lol) but DONT go through a shop or dealer to buy one...they'll rape you...(a few hundred bucks)....lata
68301, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by taloniized, Feb-12-04 09:09 AM
Originally posted by SilClipse95
could very well be the ecu...mine did that for a while...it sat at the mechanics for a while (because i was dumbfounded as to what it could be) after about a week they finially figured it out that it was my ecu...replaced it, and now my car runs better than ever....


How many miles did you have in your car? And if it is my ECU, where can I get a new one besides the dealership?
68364, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by taloniized, Feb-13-04 08:46 AM
It was the MAP sensor. Thanks for the help guys
68373, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by DR1665, Feb-13-04 10:32 AM
wo0t!

Now we'll be seeing you in the convoy to the Poker Run won't we! (I need someone to get my back when turbo8u starts talking shit man. You're the only stage 3 in town man!)

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68383, RE: Almost stalling
Posted by turbo8u, Feb-13-04 02:36 PM
Originally posted by DR1665
wo0t! Now we'll be seeing you in the convoy to the Poker Run won't we! (I need someone to get my back when turbo8u starts talking shit man. You're the only stage 3 in town man!) }(


BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

im comin for you!



_________
96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone