what can i do to my car to make it faster without a turbo or nitrous? b/c i have AEM intake and thats it so what should i put on my car and how much horsepower will it add?

Let me say this before someone jumps ups on you
The Search is your friend.

Depends on what your definition of "a lot faster" is. If its anything like mine, then there is nothing short of turbo or nitrous that will get you there. You can do lots of bolt ons, head work, cams, and the like, which will get you moving a bit faster, but if you really want to rock, you need forced induction, plain and simple..

read my post in your other thread in the general section :)

much searchage (actually just a little) will answer every question you have...afterwards if there is anything not covered (highly doubtfull) then ask

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Get a torch.
Cut off door.
Cut off roof.
Cut off rear bumper.
Cut off front bumper and all bumber support.
Cut off rear hatch.
Cut off all glass.
See now you got a convertible and run 13s. All for free :)

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Originally posted by GSdrpd16
what can i do to my car to make it faster without a turbo or nitrous? b/c i have AEM intake and thats it so what should i put on my car and how much horsepower will it add?

dude, shut up!

Weight Reduction
Intake
Throttle body
Header
Test Pipe
Larger Exhaust
Underdrive Pulley
Cams
Fuel/Ignition control

You should be somewhere in the 15's.

in the grand scheme of things, without increasing intake manifold pressure above atmospheric or adding oxidizer, your car will be slow. even with a 2.4 and ALL of the all motor upgrades one could possibly do, i doubt you could run down the 1320 in less than 14.0 seconds. this is with full weight, of course.

If all your concerned about is bragging rights at the track. It's either a lot of money for turbo, a lot of money for all motor, or a lot of money for nitrous and some internals. If you want your car to fell quicker and be more fun to drive, I'd suggest firmer struts, springs and an energy bushing kit to firm up the ride. Being able to go the fastest in a striaght line is one thing, to go quickly on the street in the curves is another.

Power costs money. You have the bug. I'd suggest a second job. :p

Originally posted by ner947
in the grand scheme of things, without increasing intake manifold pressure above atmospheric or adding oxidizer, your car will be slow. even with a 2.4 and ALL of the all motor upgrades one could possibly do, i doubt you could run down the 1320 in less than 14.0 seconds. this is with full weight, of course.

I completely agree

UNLESS I had individual throttle bodies

Bah all you need is an ELECTRIC TURBO

i'll let ya know how that quad tb works this summer.. once i get that worked out gettin it to work with my turbo set up;-)

Bah all you need is an ELECTRIC TURBO
-Chris b.



HAHAHAHAHA... I hope he doesn't take that seriously.


However, the Rocket does fit his requirments (Not turbo nor Nitrous)
Let's see that on the road, like that bike on Torque.
(which is an actual bike)... but terrible movie.

I hope he does take it serious. Perfect answer for the perfect question. If you're anywhere in CT I'll take you for a ride in a 15psi RS.

I was talking about the Electric Turbo suggestion...

I feel bad for those people who buy them off ebay.
Well, not so bad when we realize how they should research first.

"what can i put on my car to make it a lot faster without a turbo or nitrous?"

Answer : NOTHING !!! You can add all you want and just be running 14's ? Come on people dont really consider that fast I hope :(

Buy a turbo man its the only was to go on a 2gnt imo.



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Well fastest NA guy is 15.4 on here but if you want to keep up w/ a turbo 2gnt you are going to have to raisethe compression. Some people have done cams, ECU and bolt-ons but never got any times or didn't get anything impressive. Basically by the time you put the $ into car to stay NA and keep up w/ a turbo car you will probably spend more $ then you would of if you had gotten a turbo kit. Honda's are much better all motor cars if you want to stay all motor.
-Dave

Want your car to accelerate faster yet no tubro/nos??

yah rocket will work...other than that MASSIVE weight redux would work....find ways to drop to 1st gen Dodge neon weight and (they are hard and probably will be quite expensive) you will gain not only better acceleration, but you will gain braking and turning power

Im Thinking on ordering FAL rear molded windows

other than that this is a lightening guide for neons...similar results can be acheived for eclipses:

WARNING THIS IS FOR RACE ONLY..dont expect to be streatable with this

Everyday Weight Reduction:
15 lbs.-- Swap stock battery for garden tractor battery (stock=30lbs)
5 lbs.-- FMM weight
5 lbs.-- Underdrive Pulley
13 lbs.-- Replace stock DOHC muffler with Supertrapp (except winter, trips)
8 lbs.-- Carpet and sound deadener
2 lbs.-- Rear Floor Mats
6 lbs.-- Gray rub strips on the sides
5 lbs.-- Rear seat belts
2 lbs.-- Underhood insulation and plastic scoop
1 lb. -- EGR Valve and hardware
1 lb. -- Driving lights and trim piece between headlights (except winter, trips)
11 lb. -- Insulation/sound deadener under carpet and panels
1 lb. -- Black plastic trim under FMM
2.5 lbs. -- Sound Deadener in doors
4 lbs. -- Asphalt based sound deadener under rear seat
2 lbs. -- Cruise Control servo motor, cable, brackets
4.5 lbs.-- Rear 6x9 Speakers
1 lb. -- Dash tweeters
1.5 lb. -- Glove box door weight.
2 lbs.-- Steel plate w/foam below steering wheel
4.5 lbs. -- Remove one radiator fan (driver's side)
2 lbs. -- Sound deadener under console
1 lb. -- Metal plate/bracket under console bin
2 lbs. -- Steering Wheel weight
1.5 lbs. -- Replace passenger outside mirror with blank bezel

Autocross Weight Reduction:

25 lbs.-- Spare Tire
5 lbs.-- Cut off back 1/2 of exhaust, exits out side
5 lbs.-- Corbeau Forza drivers seat
34 lbs.-- Rear seat (bottom=9 lbs, back=25 lbs)
6 lbs.-- Jack and hardware
4 lbs.-- Spare tire cover
1 lb. -- Ash tray and bracket
3 lbs.-- Visors
4 lbs.-- Front Floor Mats
4 lbs.-- Stereo
35 lbs.-- Passenger Seat

Future Possible Weight Reduction:

10 lbs.-- Remove all or most asphalt based sound deadener on floor
6 lbs.-- Dash Cover
13 lbs.-- Door Panels
5 lbs. -- Console (deluxe with armrest)
40 lbs. -- Remove AC

-replace stock wheels with lighter ones
-replace stock hood with fiberglass or carbon fiber one
-replace stock fenders with fiberglass ones
-replace stock front seats with lightweight racing seats
-remove all luxuries(power windows, cruise control, etc)
-remove metal bumper supports and foam
-cut air path into rear bumper
-remove door panels and plastic interior panels
-remove headliner, sun visors, dome light and wiring
-remove rear view mirror
-remove door mirrors
-remove metal plate under steering column
-remove rear seatbelts and retractors
-replace front seatbelts and retractors with 5 point harnesses
-remove metal bracket holding rear retractors
-remove throttle linkage plastic cover
-remove trunk release cable and handle
-remove trunk lock assembly
-remove hood release and latch mechanism, replace with hood pins
-remove hood and trunk hinges, pin them on
-remove third brake light
-remove front turn signals
-remove plastic grill
-remove underhood weatherstripping
-remove trunk weatherstripping
-replace steering wheel with aftermarket one, remove airbag, clockspring, counterweight and wiring
-Grind metal inside steering column smooth with dremel
-remove passenger airbag, replace with cover from blown airbag
-remove airbag computer and mounting plate
-remove entire air conditioning system, including wiring, hoses, brackets, clips, pump, condensor, etc.
-remove entire heating system as well as front defroster
-replace rear defrost window with no rear defrost window
-replace power steering with manual steering
-replace stock radiator overflow bottle with smaller plastic bottle
-cut stock shifter to shorter height
-remove all excess fuses and relays
-remove all excess nuts, screws, bolts, washers, clips, and snaps
-remove windsheild wiper fluid holder
-remove wipers, motor, wiring, hood squirters and hoses
-remove plastic spring wraps(the things that keep springs from clanking)
-remove emblems, racing stripes, and hood badge
-replace stock brake rotors with slotted brake rotors
-drill holes in metal inside door panels and package tray(or cut them out altogether)
-drill holes in battery tray
-remove fuel tank and associate components, replace with fuel cell
-replace controls arms with lighter ones
-replace rear disk brakes with rear drums
-scrape undercoating from entire unibody, spray paint flat black to prevent rust
-engine lightening, inlcuding cam gears, valvetrain, pistons, rods, crank, flywheel, etc
-remove entire dash, and all wiring, etc. Replace with aluminum sheeting and autometer ultra lite gauges
-replace all bolts and nuts with lighter titanium or aluminum ones
-replace side and rear glass with Lexan.
-Remove shift boot
-Replace shiftknob with smaller one
-Remove center console and weight underneath
-Remove Trunk Vents
-Remove mudflaps
-Remove Evap Purge System
-Remove Tranny Counterbalance weight
-Remove Front Sway Bar
-Remove Fog Lights and wiring
-Port/Polish inside/outside of Intake manifold (DOHC)
-Remove heatshields

I dunno...but that last post...the bottom seat..weighin in at 9 lb's?????...Its made of foam..I dont recalll it weighing 9 lb's but thats just meh I guess..great info tho..

As you noted its a list for NEON weight redux.....same principle, diferent weight specs

:)

Its for a neon so its probly a different seat

put stickers on that bad boy.. that will make it super fast.hehe
Michael
99gs HRC Stage 2000 8-Injector Setup
2004 Honda Accord V6 (240 hp)

hm Somehow I missed that...damn Almost good information from the steve....

I bet if you just pulled your engine and rigged it to a HUFFY (a mountain bike for those of you who don't know), it would be pretty damn fast.

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