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6325, cold air ?'s
Posted by 1TuffRS, Nov-05-01 01:58 PM
I decided to make the PVC intake for my car and I placed the filter right behind the driver side opening in the bumper (usually covered by the little black plastic thing, but I took that off a long time ago) and since the filter is "exposed," I am worried that driving in even a light rain will end in a HUGE problem. Am I just being ridiculous or are my worries warranted??

-Toney
'97 RS 5 Speed
GST exhaust | custom cold air intake | axxis pads | Hurricane_GS shifter | Progress Springs | Rockford Fosgate MP3 Player & Speakers
TDaug@yahoo.com
6326, RE: cold air ?'s
Posted by dougie2, Nov-05-01 02:45 PM
I've driven in extremely hard storms and flooding and have never had a single problem. Hold the clutch and kill the engine if you're about to hit a huge puddle of rain.


Douglas
97 Eclipse GS

-- Mods --
Hiper Industries R1 Cold Air Intake
Arospeed Tunable Bomb Muffler 4.0" Tip
Custom Mandrel Bent 2.5" Cat-back Piping
Blue Silicone Vaccuum Hoses
Blue Engine Wireloom
Custom 2 Piece Mesh Grill

-- In The Mail --
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NOS Nitrous Oxide Kit (Wet)
NOS Bottle Heater
NOS Purge Valve Kit
6327, RE: cold air ?'s
Posted by 1TuffRS, Nov-05-01 03:02 PM
But where is your filter at?? If i drive in the rain the water WILL hit the filter since it is exposed. Should I move the filter???

-Toney
'97 RS 5 Speed
GST exhaust | custom cold air intake | axxis pads | Hurricane_GS shifter | Progress Springs | Rockford Fosgate MP3 Player & Speakers
TDaug@yahoo.com
6328, RE: cold air ?'s
Posted by EvuLFleA, Nov-05-01 03:14 PM
Dont worry about it. If you need warranty work just put your stock back on. Either that or spend a whole $50 and get a short-ram intake on ebay.
6329, RE: cold air ?'s
Posted by Michael_97RS, Nov-05-01 03:52 PM
A small amoumt of water you pull in during a rain is not a problem it a problem when you submerge the filter and bring in a LOT of water. As in enough to fill the combustion chamber.

Which means you have to drive through a deep puddle, and submerge the filter. So plastic thing in or not you would be in trouble. just rain fall is not enough to cause any damage.

"The fastest draw is when the sword never leaves the scabbard,
The strongest way to block, is never to provoke a blow,
And the cleanest cut is the one withheld."

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To Be Installed: Rear disc brake conversion kit, SS Brake Lines, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors and KVR Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads
6330, RE: cold air ?'s
Posted by 1TuffRS, Nov-06-01 12:25 AM
aiight thats cool, thanks

-Toney
'97 RS 5 Speed
GST exhaust | custom cold air intake | axxis pads | Hurricane_GS shifter | Progress Springs | Rockford Fosgate MP3 Player & Speakers
TDaug@yahoo.com
6331, RE: cold air ?'s
Posted by rfitz88, Nov-06-01 06:12 AM
Is there a big difference between having the black piece on the bumber and taking it out. Do you get more power louder sound etc.
I m wondering If I should take mine out.


1998 Eclipse GS

AEM CAI
NGK Plugs
Magnecore wires
Front Strut Bar
NOS (waiting to install)
Purge Kit
GST/GSX Spoiler
18" rims (waiting till the end of the month)

6332, RE: cold air ?'s
Posted by vegasdsmr, Nov-06-01 06:21 AM
well, if you take out the black brake scoop peice, then you will have air hitting the filter when driving, allowing for a ramair type of effect. also, the filter will be able to suck colder air from outside the engine bay. the main thing u want is colder air, get the air to it however u want, but taking off the scoop things will definately help, just dont go drivin through big ass puddles at like 60



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2.5 catback w/5zigen muff and cherry bomb resonator
front upper and rear upper strut bar
NGK BKR5E-11
8.5 mm magnecores
hurricane gs shiftermod
symborski shifter kit

AFX UDP (sittin in my garage)


6333, RE: cold air ?'s
Posted by gun98gs, Nov-06-01 06:58 AM
don't worry man...i have a cold air too and took the little black piece out too and have not sucked in a water yet...i have driven in all kinds of water...not too big though..just hold the clutch in and don't gas it in a big puddle...




mods:
aem cold air
af/x underdrive pulley
custom exhaust with no cat
custom shifter from hurricane gs
pacesetter headers
ngk plugs and accel wires
af/x solid motor mount
front strut bar
55mm TB (as soon i get it back)
and other appearance mods...rims and stuff..
Future mods: star stage II
6334, RE: cold air ?'s
Posted by XtremeRS, Nov-06-01 11:10 AM
So you guys are sayin that even if your filter is completely exposed to rain, and it gets all soaked by driving, but not submerged, its still ok for the engine? Any engine experts out there to verify this?? Does soaking the filter ruin it at all??

Matt's 98 RS 5spd
custom shifter(cut&weld meself)
symborski shift kit
window tint
2700 watt system
15" aluminum Eclipse sub
custom pvc CAI
Dis is jus da beginin!


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or i will kick you in
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6335, RE: cold air ?'s
Posted by thedawg, Nov-06-01 12:50 PM
I don't know anything about mechanics, engineering, or physics so don't quote me, but remember:
1) K&N filters are coated with filter oil. Oil repels water.
2) Air follows the path of least resistance. If air had the choice of going thru water (and possibly sucking the water up with it) and going thru a tiny hole in the filter- it'd go thru the hole. Water's much heavier than air.
3) Most of us with CAI's have splashed thru a puddle or two, and I personally have never heard someone complain about their engine hydrolocking. In fact, I've heard of people using water *injection* in their engines.

Dan Green
99'RS-T