Looking at prices you see that just the springs are ~100.00 but for both retainers and springs your looking at ~250.00. Meaning that the 16 retainers are 150.00 by themselves. I know why they are that pricey (titanium) but my question is do you think you can just run the Crane springs w/o the retainers (use stock ones) and live a happy life or are they a must for survival?

TIA
Brian

i have read that you can do this without issue. our retainers are supposed to be pretty stong. i believe HRC uses stock retainers on thier cars buthave crane springs.

Originally posted by tim97rs
i have read that you can do this without issue. our retainers are supposed to be pretty stong. i believe HRC uses stock retainers on thier cars buthave crane springs.

hrc has no head work.

i wouldn't recommend running springs without the retainers for them.. furthermore.. why half ass it.. if you are going to do, do it right.

james

>>if you are going to do, do it right.<<

Agreed

what sui said.

anyway, havent you (justone) been saying you were going to update your sig pic for the last 2 years? hehe.

i did both at the same time since i was doing some headwork. Also you save on some weight relating to the valvetrain etc...
Michael
99gs HRC Stage IV 8-Injector Setup
2GNT Member #32

Originally posted by soulcontroller
what sui said. anyway, havent you (justone) been saying you were going to update your sig pic for the last 2 years? hehe.

Yeah, yeah...I will be the first to admit that I am lazy.

same question here i got my crane srpings from howell and ordered retainers but they changed my order and told me that crane retainers wouldn't work ?

the cranes will work with the stock retainers..

neon guys been doing this for ages...

there is nothing wrong with our retainers they stay intact up to around 10krpms

the springs on the other hand dont hold up very well to higher rev's

ive seen a couple 2-3 incidents where cranes just up and broke
i have not seen any crowers do this..


Bill

Yup, stock retainers are just fine. The only thing that you might want those ti retainers for would be as a weight reduction. The lighter the valvetrain, the higher it will be capable of reving, but you arent gonna ever go over 10000 rpm anyway.