on howell's site they list this...

http://www.howellautomotive.com/Howell/Store/catalog/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=229

it says for 1995 only. will it work for 95 through 99? i don't imaging them being any differen. anyone bought a thermostat for something other than a 99?

thanx
james

What temp is our stock one? I though that our ecu sees 180 as full operating temp and will continue to run in open loop mode until it sees 180.

use the search noob :+

yea, same thermostat i believe. i have a 96 talon and it fit right in. it works wonders, engine cools down so fast now. watter wetter and 160 degree thermostat, cheaper than a fluidyne or something and almost does the same thing.

good buy imo
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca



turbo8u> you suck
Uberingram> i know
turbo8u> oh

SaberKhan> Someone needs to snatch that GST of yours up and give you your Cavalier back.

Originally posted by turbo8u
use the search noob

noob? lay down my whp and then maybe you can talk to me like that slut..

Originally posted by siueclipse

Originally posted by turbo8u use the search noob

noob? lay down my whp and then maybe you can talk to me like that slut..

it was a joke, hence the ":+". besides, whp has NOTHING to do with this. how about you just call howell *gasp*...what an idea. no need to call me a slut

bitch.



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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca



turbo8u> you suck
Uberingram> i know
turbo8u> oh

SaberKhan> Someone needs to snatch that GST of yours up and give you your Cavalier back.

i think he meant you calling him a noob when he isnt..... anyway. sometiems its easier to ask questions on ehre than searching. Why? because I know that I have searched fro stuff before an dI cant find what Im looking for. the topic may have been discussed but not EXACTLY what I am looking for... anyway thats my opinion so im sure it stinks to most just like aholes do.

yes you can use it. I have it on my 98. But it was 30 to my door for a damn neon stat that costs 5 bucks. I know he supports us be he just made a 300 percent profit off me. I dont knoe why everyone says that their temps drop but mine just did, a little tiny bit. That helped enough thoug.

oh and I noticed a 40 mile drop in the mialage for a full tank.

Originally posted by Chamuko
oh and I noticed a 40 mile drop in the mialage for a full tank.

:wary



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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca



turbo8u> you suck
Uberingram> i know
turbo8u> oh

SaberKhan> Someone needs to snatch that GST of yours up and give you your Cavalier back.

Actualy yesterday I went to the local dealer to try to get ome and none the less they couldnt get one. But the tech guy ther said it might not be a good idea because of the 180 degree sensor deal. He said it would kill gas milleage and hurt the car over time. So now I am not quite so sure if I want one. Just my two cents, later
Patrick
96 GS
14.14 @ 96.5 mph on 8psi 8 Nov.02
HRC kit, S20G, FMIC, Howell bottom end 8.6 pistons, S-FMU, Blitz BOV, P&P head, SS valves, lots more little goodies

i had it on my car. really just drop the temp a little. it would keep it around 200 max. with the stock thermo its around 200-212 give or take.. on my car it did not help alot so i took it out after 1 month.
Michael
99gs
HRC Stage IV 8-Injector Setup
2GNT Member #32

I run it also..
Im 97


Nick
97RS

turbo8u> shut your SUCK
ZAO684: NIPPLE warning...maybe>?

Originally posted by mitsudsr
Actualy yesterday I went to the local dealer to try to get ome and none the less they couldnt get one. But the tech guy ther said it might not be a good idea because of the 180 degree sensor deal. He said it would kill gas milleage and hurt the car over time. So now I am not quite so sure if I want one. Just my two cents

of course the dealership is going to say that. i brought my car into mitsu and opened my hood and the techs were like *gasp*, thats SO BAD FOR YOUR ENGINE, yadda yadda yadda...theyre just against mods, thats all. cooler operating temps change the voltage from the temp sensor, making your injector pulse duration change, so yes you will go through more fuel if you dont retune. colder op temps wont hurt your engine....its actually good for it in a way



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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca



turbo8u> you suck
Uberingram> i know
turbo8u> oh

SaberKhan> Someone needs to snatch that GST of yours up and give you your Cavalier back.

I never really saw that much benefit from it. It didn't make my operating temps any lower on the guage. It may have kept me from overheating more than I was though.

i wish i could show you what it did with a pocketlogger, thats the way you tell.

get redline watter wetter and a lower thermostat and you will see/feel a difference. im speaking from personal experience, its hot and humid in CA and this therm keeps my temps down.

just my .02, again :-P
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca



turbo8u> you suck
Uberingram> i know
turbo8u> oh

SaberKhan> Someone needs to snatch that GST of yours up and give you your Cavalier back.

My car definately runs better with it.

Stock ECU from what I understand will be fine and see the engine as warmed up anything over 150 degrees coolanmt temp.



15.9 @ 86.7mph
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Mods List:
http://highlander.dsmpower.com/sig.htm

160 degree, and water wetter is what i use, it seems like the more i get on it, it cools down, a definate good buy

Actually the guys at the dealer liked my car they thought it was cool. Turbo8u how did you adjust the fuel down? Did you use sfmu or safc? Do you lower the fuel press.? And if so wouldnt the lower fuel press. change the ammount of boost you can run?
Patrick
96 GS
14.14 @ 96.5 mph on 8psi 8 Nov.02
HRC kit, S20G, FMIC, Howell bottom end 8.6 pistons, S-FMU, Blitz BOV, P&P head, SS valves, lots more little goodies

Well I checked mine on my datalogger too and it was still getting up in the 220's and up. I think my problem is partly the radiator though. So once I get a new one we will see what's really going on. I think I'm just heat soaking the RAD on those hot days, that's why I was saying it was prolly keeping me from overheating more than I was.

when do these thermostats go bad? i have like 2k on mine, just curious
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca



turbo8u> you suck
Uberingram> i know
turbo8u> oh

SaberKhan> Someone needs to snatch that GST of yours up and give you your Cavalier back.

Originally posted by turbo8u

Originally posted by Chamuko oh and I noticed a 40 mile drop in the mialage for a full tank.

:wary _________ 96 talon esi-t san clemente, ca turbo8u> you suck Uberingram> i know turbo8u> oh SaberKhan> Someone needs to snatch that GST of yours up and give you your Cavalier back.

Blah, So I used some bad spelling, ;( waste of time pointing it out...damn this is too:shrug

Hmmm...drop in gas mileage huh. I gotta try that someday..cuz I've had mine for quite a awhile and it's like one day I noticed I don't get as good gas mileage, and I changed out the O2 with a Bosch one. I still overheat with it in, damn intercooler. I guess it would help in the summer but in the winter it wouldn't be advisable. It takes forever to get up to operating temps (half way up) on a cold day. I'll try that cuz I run already real rich using the 12:1 disk, stock injectors and boosting only bout 5lbs..I can smell the fuel sometimes.
Alvin

96 RST

Star Stage I turbo kit /Starion I/C w/ 2" chrome piping / GReddy Type-S BOV / Missing Link / Custom APEXi- GReddy 2.5" exhaust / 55mm ARD TB/ Nology wires / APEXi EL mech boost gauge / Autometer A/F gauge / Southland Dual Friction clutch