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61965, INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by Initial DSM, Oct-22-03 10:55 AM
Ok did a bit of research and although I posted this in another segment, I figured it belongs here so:
I spoke to Russ at Indy Cylinderhead last week, and although the guys said its been on the backburner because of neon projects, it WILL be out in early December just in time for the Indy Performance auto show. Its 2 piece cast aluminum design weighing around 10lbs.

Spoke to Jason at Fast Fabrications abot his Intake Manifold. Motofool will be selling them through him and yes those pictures he posted up a while back was a hand made prototype design. He'll send me updated pics soon also. This is a one piece plenum that attaches to your stock runners, thus making the install pretty simple and straight forward. The sheet metal intake manifolds arent easy to put on (relocate battery, redrill fittings for fuel rail, other parts etc, custom make new intake pipe etc), so if the same gains can be made from a tig welded plenum attached onto stock runners, without the hassle of installation, then thats one less headache. Both design use the curved runners as well.

Anywayz, the prices for both are not too bad, so just wanted to let you guys know.
61971, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by mcgyvr, Oct-22-03 11:37 AM
blah. fast fab needs to get rid of the stock lower manifold esp for that price they want for it.
61972, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by turbo8u, Oct-22-03 11:46 AM
waste of money imo

the hahn rs ran a 10.87 with a stock intake mani...nuff said.
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san clemente, ca

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61974, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by Collente, Oct-22-03 11:52 AM
Lets watch the RS hit low tens with it! nuf said..
Nick
97RS

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61975, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by turbo8u, Oct-22-03 11:53 AM
haha...riiiight

the rs right now has a 150 shot. bills throwing on a 200 shot.. nuff said, again
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

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turbo8u> oh
61988, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by 2g99RSNC, Oct-22-03 05:30 PM
Jason up at fast fabs used my car as fitment for the manifold. I've seen it up close and it looks real good. He also made a custom battery mount so we can run a smaller civic battery. I've talked to bill and jason and we r going to dyno it on my car so u guys can see the improvement on a turbo car and i think i found someone who will dyno it on a all motor car. Once we do this were beable to prove that it works. The manifold it self is one of his newest designs. The shape of the manifold helps make the flow even throughout all runners unlike the all round top ones that tend to give more air to 1st and 4th cylinder. I think with the price that they r asking it will be well worth it. Its bolts onto ur stock bottom runners they r slightly curved but isnt all that bad just gets those ported and polished out or something like that and it will make a huge difference for our cars.
stage 4 clutch, aluminum flywheel, solid motor mounts, Phantom grip, phantom boost, egt, a/f, oil psi, apexi TT, Jeep TB, Star stage 2 with custom 3 inch downpipe out passenger side bumper, custom ground kit, falcon azenis, 2 inch drop, eibach camber kit, crank scrapper,AEM cam gear, short shifter, AFX UDP and some other stuff
61989, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by JWoodley, Oct-22-03 05:32 PM
for $500 dollars i can port and polish many, many things and also purchase other parts that will help much more than the single manifold. (I.e AF/X UDP, maybe a used nitrous kit, etc) Plus, if I spend that much money in one place, it better be bolt on and go. No way I'm buying something that requies even more money to be spent for it to actually work. Just my .02...
61991, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by 2g99RSNC, Oct-22-03 05:46 PM
from what they said it was going to be like 300-350 i think which isnt to bad when some of u spend like 250 on a AEM intake
stage 4 clutch, aluminum flywheel, solid motor mounts, Phantom grip, phantom boost, egt, a/f, oil psi, apexi TT, Jeep TB, Star stage 2 with custom 3 inch downpipe out passenger side bumper, custom ground kit, falcon azenis, 2 inch drop, eibach camber kit, crank scrapper,AEM cam gear, short shifter, AFX UDP and some other stuff
61992, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by bustrblue2, Oct-22-03 06:44 PM
hey 99rsnc, where are you located at? and where is the shop? if your in NC how far away from charlotte?
61994, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by dfresh, Oct-22-03 10:46 PM
civic battery?????? nuff said..........


dfresh
61999, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by Mystic511, Oct-23-03 05:31 AM
Originally posted by JWoodley
for $500 dollars i can port and polish many, many things and also purchase other parts that will help much more than the single manifold. (I.e AF/X UDP, maybe a used nitrous kit, etc) Plus, if I spend that much money in one place, it better be bolt on and go. No way I'm buying something that requies even more money to be spent for it to actually work. Just my .02...


Yes, but if you already bought/done all those things and you have 500 bucks, then it would be alright to at least consider a manifold.
62001, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by 2g99RSNC, Oct-23-03 07:50 AM
i live in Yadkinville about 1 1/2 hours away i think not real sure. Ok about the civic battery its smaller which means no more holes in the side of ur intake from riding on the battery holder post things. He does powdercoating so u can probably get it in a number of colors to match ur engine bay. Its a real nice box and it bolts right up to ur factory mounts.
stage 4 clutch, aluminum flywheel, solid motor mounts, Phantom grip, phantom boost, egt, a/f, oil psi, apexi TT, Jeep TB, Star stage 2 with custom 3 inch downpipe out passenger side bumper, custom ground kit, falcon azenis, 2 inch drop, eibach camber kit, crank scrapper,AEM cam gear, short shifter, AFX UDP and some other stuff
62002, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by 2g99RSNC, Oct-23-03 07:51 AM
the shop is in stoneville
stage 4 clutch, aluminum flywheel, solid motor mounts, Phantom grip, phantom boost, egt, a/f, oil psi, apexi TT, Jeep TB, Star stage 2 with custom 3 inch downpipe out passenger side bumper, custom ground kit, falcon azenis, 2 inch drop, eibach camber kit, crank scrapper,AEM cam gear, short shifter, AFX UDP and some other stuff
62011, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by darosa4561, Oct-23-03 10:32 AM
i cant wait for the indy manifold. Hopefully it will produce some of the gains it did for the neons guys
62012, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by Initial DSM, Oct-23-03 10:37 AM
The fast fabrications manifold is $300
The Indy Manifold will be $490
They're both made to be straight bolt ons.
estimated gains for both should be 30 whp.

You dont HAVE to use the civic battery, it could still work, the stock battery, itll just be real close.

Magnus Intake manifold adds 40 to 54 whp and you need to relocate your coil pack, wiring, battery to the back or get a lightweight one, and custom make a new intake pipe; so I think we have it alot easier than the 4G63 guys.
62014, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by ez, Oct-23-03 11:09 AM
very interesting initialDSM. how did they estimate the whp? If they are going to be in production by december, I'm guessing they already have created a prototype with some dyno time. keep us updated
62030, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by 2g99RSNC, Oct-23-03 03:49 PM
once i get my new clutch in and broke in i'm going to take my car and another all motor car to the dyno. We will post the graphs so u guys can see the difference.
stage 4 clutch, aluminum flywheel, solid motor mounts, Phantom grip, phantom boost, egt, a/f, oil psi, apexi TT, Jeep TB, Star stage 2 with custom 3 inch downpipe out passenger side bumper, custom ground kit, falcon azenis, 2 inch drop, eibach camber kit, crank scrapper,AEM cam gear, short shifter, AFX UDP and some other stuff
62031, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by MotoFool, Oct-23-03 05:09 PM
the indy manifold was not as impressive as all the neon owners thought black dogs stock runner hacked box intake made more power at every rpm then the indy manifold did...


the battery box is there so there is NO MORE FITAMENT problems the new design places the tb the same exact place as the stock TB is...

the restriction in the stock intake is not in the lower runners its in the upper half and the plenium..

these will come powedercoated any color you want or in raw aluminum.

Bill

62042, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by Chamuko, Oct-23-03 08:57 PM
will a civic battery fit? To be honest with you guys i tried. Since the STAR pipping isnt the best I needed a thinner one. Its too tall. Well for me it was ... maybe it was my strut bar.:puke
65546, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by TalonSpeed, Dec-31-03 02:01 PM
Update???
65548, RE: INDY manifold & Fast Fabrications manifold update
Posted by 2g99RSNC, Dec-31-03 02:45 PM
I'm going to be the test car for his intake manifold but hes been busy and i had problems with my clutch and trying to get clutchmasters to fix it. so i'm having to do that and also putting on one of his turbo manifolds. once this is done which should be soon we r going to the dyno and doing a pull with the stock intake and with a fast fabrications intake on a all motor car and a turbo car.

stage 4 clutch, aluminum flywheel, solid motor mounts, Phantom grip, phantom boost, egt, a/f, oil psi, apexi TT, Jeep TB, Star stage 2 with custom 3 inch downpipe out passenger side bumper, custom ground kit, falcon azenis, 2 inch drop, eibach camber kit, crank scrapper,AEM cam gear, short shifter, AFX UDP and some other stuff