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58696, Counterweight/balance and shaft removal?.. ATTN: Bill? Posted by tacoman123, Sep-07-03 04:06 PM
I was just reading on Car and Driver's Magazine, about how Howell removed the counterweight/balance and shaft in their Neon. Because the way I see it, the engine will be unbalanced, and lead to premature crankshaft breakage.
I was wondering, how did they balance this? How much horsepower is freed from this?
Doing this, will I be able to drive this daily (not caring about the sound or noise it will make now)?
Will this lead to premature crankshaft breakage?
What are some positive and negative effects of this?
http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=6947&page_number=6
Here is a picture of what I mean. The balance point is symbolized where both of the lines cross. Note I am estimating the balance point the right and it may or may not be exagerated.
EDIT: I know that the 2.0L 420A doesn't have balance shafts, I was just wondering how they accomplished it. (I read it in the archives)
AND.. Does anyone have pictures of before and after balance shaft removal pictures?
Thanks
~Tacoman
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58698, RE: Counterweight/balance and shaft removal?.. Posted by ner947, Sep-07-03 04:38 PM
there is no balance shaft on the 2GNT.
the 2.4 420A has a balance shaft. i have no idea how to remove it. bill would know.
EDIT: i knew there was something on the main site about this...
http://www.2gnt.com/www/files/2.4L/2.4L.htm
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58700, RE: Counterweight/balance and shaft removal?.. Posted by The1Bill, Sep-07-03 05:26 PM
Yup, 4 bolts to remove, and an oiling hole to plug. That's it. Shouldn't make much of a difference, as it only eliminates secondary vibrations, not the vibrations that kill bearings. Just shakes a bit more, but I plan on using solid mounts in at least 2 locations and prothanes everywhere else. -=B-=
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58719, RE: Counterweight/balance and shaft removal?.. Posted by Michael_97RS, Sep-08-03 05:01 AM
Yeah it's a comfort thing, not a damage causing one.
Beside if you are building an engine you should be balancing it anyway.

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58725, RE: Counterweight/balance and shaft removal?.. Posted by 420aturbo, Sep-08-03 06:01 AM
The 4G63T guys do this all the time. There are NO adverise affects on reliability.
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59039, RE: Counterweight/balance and shaft removal?.. Posted by MotoFool, Sep-11-03 07:21 PM
i chopped my BS( i like to call it Bullshit Box =)
took it out filled oil hole and thins are gonna be peachy my hole bottom end is balanced too...
just got my new eagles to repelce the crappy bent t2 rods...
Bill
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