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Topic subjectFor those with 60mm TB..
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53462, For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by Remy, Jun-19-03 07:24 AM
Is it a big diffrence over stock ? Was it very noticeable ?
53474, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by FuSi0N, Jun-19-03 09:32 AM
Yes the difference is noticable, more than a caback, intake, or header combined, just imo because I actually have this setup on my car.
53478, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by JWoodley, Jun-19-03 10:39 AM
Definitely. I dream about the night I installed it, set the idle, and bumped the gas pedal for the 1st time. Amazing difference. My car felt like a hot rod after I got it installed. After a while the feeling wore off. But oh well. Great mod.
53482, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by Remy, Jun-19-03 11:39 AM
Thx I am shopping for one now.
53483, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by eclipticrider, Jun-19-03 11:45 AM
yea, just after the install my first time starting it up was a little rough, but then i just barely tap'd the gas and vrrrooommm it the rpms shoot up... the test drive i took it for went well, it's real touchy, coming home from work this morn' i was leavn' a light and i went to roll like normal but i either let out the clutch too quickly or had too much throttle and i chiped my tire twice.

it makes the car feel realy sporty aslo. and i'm gonna see how much gas it gets cuz i just filled up and then i'll see if there is any difference...

it's a great mod, not too hard as long as you have the proper tools

i needed a T15 Star tool to take off the sensors, i bought one from an auto store and go to take the screws out and the damn tool starts to twist!!! they were put in w/lock tight stuff and were a PITA to get out!!! other then that it was fairly simple!!!

and i'm not sure if this is normal i figure it is cuz the ecu has to learn the new whatever about it but for like the first half hour of running the car it would sound like it was missing at idle like instead of the normal rrrrrmmmmmmm of the exhaust u'd hear rrryymmmmm.......rrryyymmmm........rrryyymmmm, but it don't do that now so it's all good

WTB--- Dodge Omni:


http://www.geocities.com/shadyporshe851proof/frame_content/indexframe.html

mods:
star stage III clutch, + the normal mods + bass + lights. well u get the pictur
53536, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by ez, Jun-20-03 11:55 AM
I love it. with my cat back and a cai, it feels faster than my dad's gst spyder. now I just need the indy intake manifold with a bore that matches the tb
53537, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by python6586, Jun-20-03 12:02 PM
for those of you who say you felt a big difference did you do anything else to ur intake manifold or just put on the t.b and feel the diff. cuz i always thought if u got a bigger t.b u had to do intake man. work?
53541, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by MetalJim, Jun-20-03 01:57 PM
When I made mine, I didn't portmatch the intake manifold, and it still felt great. Definate gain.


95 Eclipse RS : 5 speed
15.943 @ 86.48mph
Jeep TB writeup - http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html
53564, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by Clay, Jun-20-03 10:11 PM
Yep like the others have said. I have it combined with a cai and catback exhuast. The TB will be noticed once you push the throttle.
53571, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by MiztahfooLish, Jun-21-03 06:34 AM
I just got done installing mine and they're saying the truth, very noticeable gain just that fucking RPM wont go below 2k. Anybody know how to fix it? TIA
MiztahfooLish...'95 RS

CAIw/K&N/OBXexhuast/shortshifter/Accel8.5mmwires/Blitzrear/99conversion/diamondplatemats/Powerslotrotors/M3LEDmirrors/57mmTB&manifold&More
53572, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by JWoodley, Jun-21-03 06:55 AM
score! i finally get to help someone out.

1) Adjust your throttle cable if its the idle. It'd help if you had one or two more people to do this.

2) Go to automotive store and buy "throttle body tension springs" or something to that effect and try this:



All I did was take a piece of aluminum and put it under the nut on the idle screw(?) then attach the spring to the aluminum piece then to the TB arm. Goodluck.

I guess since 60mm > 52mm(or less) there isnt enough vacuum to close the butterfly to where it should be. I could go up to a stop sign or redlight and the rpms would be around 1800-2200. The only way to get them back to normal would be to bump the gas pedal. With this spring it is perfect. I've had it on for close to 800 miles. When you turn your car off, it definitely cuts off.


Edit: if the pic doesnt work, just IM me. Geocities is being gay. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. Proof would be my sig pic. =(
53577, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by MiztahfooLish, Jun-21-03 08:18 AM
the pics did not work, try imagestation.com to host your pics. or e-mail me the link. thanks!
MiztahfooLish...'95 RS

CAIw/K&N/OBXexhuast/shortshifter/Accel8.5mmwires/Blitzrear/99conversion/diamondplatemats/Powerslotrotors/M3LEDmirrors/57mmTB&manifold&More
53584, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by Clay, Jun-21-03 11:11 AM
If the spring method doesn't work check out what i did.

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=51148&mode=full
53592, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by Remy, Jun-21-03 03:13 PM

So who exactly didnt get a bigger intake mani when you went with the 60mm TB ? Because I am hearing that you dont feel a diffrence if you dont get a bigger Intake Mani.
53598, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by Wtngclan, Jun-21-03 05:33 PM
i'll be finding out soon enuff .. gotta send the mo for my intake manifold (p&p w/ 60mm openin) and in a week i get my 60mm tb ;)
53594, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by FuSi0N, Jun-21-03 04:06 PM
>I just got done installing mine and they're saying the truth,
>very noticeable gain just that fucking RPM wont go below 2k.
>Anybody know how to fix it? TIA
>

You sir have a leak that is causing your idle problem, I had the same problem when I first installed mine. If you're using the thin paper gasket that the 60mmTB came with, dump it and buy some thicker gasket material and make another one out of it. Next apply silicone sealant to both sides, and mount it up tight. Then for the final step reset your ecu by disconnecting the ground wire for 5 min. After I did all this my car now runs at 700k rpms.
53658, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by 420AYE, Jun-22-03 03:29 PM
well, stocker is 55mm or so.. and the mani i think is like 58... so if you got a 60 tb, then you'd be doin 58 right? so you are only losin 2 mm.. port it out... dremel anyone?
53677, RE: For those with 60mm TB..
Posted by Mystic511, Jun-22-03 10:54 PM
>well, stocker is 55mm or so.. and the mani i think is like
>58... so if you got a 60 tb, then you'd be doin 58 right? so
>you are only losin 2 mm.. port it out... dremel anyone?


Stock TB is 52mm. AF/x's bored TB is 55mm. The intake mani is around 52mm as well. So there's a big difference between 52 and 60. :-(