ok so the other night me and my friends decided to put in new vacuum lines, some sort of wierd inspiratiion, so we went ahead swapped out a few and noww my car wont start, i was hopping it wasnt one of the lines we switched so i went a head and got new coil pack new w3ire and new plugs (i needed them anyways) and nuthing, the engine keeps turning over but it doesnt wanna fire up, like its not hesitating at all just wont fire up heres a few pics of the lines i swaped out tell me if one of these can be my culprit







i know its hard to tell by these pick but if you guys can help me get my car started i'll love you for ever it hasen't started in over two weeks man i gotta get the thing going

and yes i know my engine bay looks like shit

"it hasen't started in over two weeks"

Check your battery charge. Those vacuum lines wouldnt stop the car from starting. That one coming out of the "ufo" looking thing are your EGR vauum lines. If you fucked those up you'd have a CEL. Like if you blocked em some how, no CEL = didnt fuck those up (Generally anyway). Saw you had another coming out of the intake manifold at that Y connector, not sure what that is.

Id check your batter definitely, especially if you havnt started it in two weeks. If you havnt already, try hookin your car up to someone elses and try to jump it.

Joseph

tried new battery and tried jumping it and same stuff just turns over and i dont have an intetrior in there to complicate things so i cant tell whats going on with cels and so forth i put in gas so i know its not that either

Is it a 5 speed? Try starting it the "old" way. Roll it then pop the clutch and give it some gas. See if that works. Sounds kinda like maybe you brushed something like the alternator connections or maybe the starter somehow. Only concern I have, cause I dunno what it is, is that one line at the Y fitting. Follow the vacuum on the left and see where it goes. Or get a side by side comparison with another 2gnt and make sure you got all your hoses right!


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PS - check fuses as well. Talked to some other guys who followed that line and it just goes to the passenger side vac lines. Most of them said it sounds electrical. And if you had a vac line off youd be idling real shitty. Like 4k shitty.

Try giving it some throttle while you're cranking it. Like, all of it. Sometimes, when my car stalls and my 440's flood it with fuel, that is the only way i can get it restarted.

tryed giving it gas, what would cause it not to spark ....fuse??

update: ok went out there with a new battery checked all the fuses and still nuthing everything looks good just wont start is there other fuses other then the ones behind the headlight an under the dash , man i need to getthis thing started, i'm about to cry and hey can sumkone post the vacuum lines diagram i wanna falow them all to make sure they are correct

aww man, come on someone please....i'm desperate, after 6 months my interior is finally in but what good does that do me if the damn thing dont runhook me up guys please!!!!!!!

dude try pushing it to start it, it maybe an electrical thing, those vac line mods won't stop the car from starting!
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"Z"

"those vac line mods"

Maybe not them but the way they were installed. Telling ya, you coulda got careless and misinstalled them, or even bumped into something causing a short. Go get another 2gnt friend, have em come over and compare your cars vac lines to each other. And compare anything else in the vicinity of the vac lines, should you have bumped into something.

Check your spark plug and coil pack connections to the harness. It's usually always something you screwed with that causes it not to be able to work as it once had (in this case to start).

...and your it's not your vacuum lines.

I dunno if its those things though (although its very likely). Because it seemed like he installed those after the fact that it wouldnt start. But maybe he isntalled them before:wary

You need to atleast hook up some sorta light to your CEL though man, its there for a reason:thumbsup

edit* what did u install in your interior? did you fuck with any wires down there? or accidentally bump into something near hte dash?

ok so i checked all the wires where the dash goes everything seems good and yes i changed the wire, plugs, and coil after the issue started two things i wanna try, one is i know theres a way tio check how much spark you getting in your wires with a multimeter can anyone tell me how and i dont have any 2gnt's around so i took pics of where my lines run to can you guys check these witrh the lines in your car and tell me if they are correct

first off i have the egr

that line runs to a y in the back of manifold

from the other side

to the little cappy conector thing with green on it

and then fron the other end to some raily black thingy

can some one please varify if this is correct and if anyone has a diagram that would help too so that i can check them all

Dude, they all look fine. I've re-arranged and disconnected so many vacuum lines to this date, it's funny. I don't have the EGR nor the EVAP hooked up anymore. Besides, the BOV, FPR, EIC reference with the bosot guage, and the cruise control, I've disconnected everything else!

Trust me...your car doesn't give a shit about vacuum lines for starting the car. It needs the starter to be connected as well the as the ECU, the coil, spark plugs, fuel injectors and air...and that's basically it. It's gotta be some sensor disconnected such as the cam or crank sensor or the coil...or something more substantial.

Start with the basics: are you getting fuel and spark?? Take out one of your spark plugs after you have been trying to start it. It should have plenty of fuel on it. Now, carefully, put the spark plug inside the plug wire, and set the plug onto a good ground(be sure to pull the rest of your plug wires off of the plugs still in the motor), and then crank over the motor. You should see a bluish colored spark in the gap of the spark plug. Try and keep this "test" away from any fuel vapors, ect..dont hold it by the cylinder that the plug is out of, just for safety.DONT hold onto the plug wire when you are cranking!! Also, check all your fuses, and be sure you have good, fresh gas in the tank. If the car has been sitting for 6 months, thats enough time for it to go bad, esp if moisture is in it.

i got fresh new gas in it, i'm gonna try the spark test tomorrow also someone told me to find out if its fuel spray carb cleaner into my intake that should give it "fuel" to start or atl;east get closer to starting , is this true?

Yeah, I've done that before. on both TBI and TPI set ups.

Jason, any codes from the EVAP not being hooked up?



15.9 @ 86.7mph

Injen CAI, 55mm TB, P&P Intake, Crower Cams, Hooker Header, ERT/Catco Cat, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, Crane Ign Amp, S-AFC

>Yeah, I've done that before. on both TBI and TPI set ups.
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>Jason, any codes from the EVAP not being hooked up?


Heck yeah, but the turbo ruined the EVAP system somehow, in that I've had EVAP codes with it anyways ever since I installed the turbosystem. So, why not just disconnect it? I'm pulling that CEL bulb once I have some time. It's been a permanent fixture in my dash.:rolleyes

And why do you think we needed your datalogger for my EGR? Because my bulb has been out for a long time... :)



15.9 @ 86.7mph

Injen CAI, 55mm TB, P&P Intake, Crower Cams, Hooker Header, ERT/Catco Cat, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, Crane Ign Amp, S-AFC

update: sprayed carb cleaner into tb and no diffrence at all just keeps cranking i can smell fuel tho when i start cranking i put in dash and i have no cel, but i was wondering if our cars have a emergency fuel shutoff switch

I know this may sound weird, but check your timing belt...just in case, my car died about a month ago, and I replaced just about everything electrical on the car...nothing helped, then I had the car towed to a shop...just for them to tell me I had no timing belt anymore and a pulley broke

...so, just make sure it's not cracking or anything...

someone else just said that to me but i just got my belt replaced like 4 months ago

ok so still trying to get this thing goingi just remembered if this helps at all right before i changed my lines my car did start but there was a shit load of smoke comming out of the exhauhst, it only ran it for 2 mins does this help you guys at all

maybe??????