I'm looking to buy a good exhaust system, but I need to know what to get. I went to a couple of(muffler) shops, but they couldn't really help much. I'm kinda interested in the pacesetter system, but I don't know much about it. On my last talon,(1gnt) I had a Dynomax system put on, and hated it. It sounded waaaaaay to ricey. I need to know what you guys suggest, so I can start spending some hard earned ca$h!
BTW, with a new cat back system, would it be best to leave the resonator on, or take it off??

Im geting pacesetter's headers and cat back but I am going to put a Aero Speed bomb muffler on it.

In your pursuits of getting a good exhaust system, try not to go over 2.5 in. diameter cat-back piping. The resonator acts like a second muffler so if you leave it on, it does pose a little flow restriction but you get less noise. If you do take it off, well you get the idea. The cheapest way to go cat-back is to get a GOOD BRAND muffler (Apex, Tanabe, 5Zigen, Greddy, etc...), and have an exhaust shop do a custom cat piping for you. Tell them to try and not go over 2.5 in. because you will lose too much precious backpressure. Also make sure they mandrel bend the piping. Hope this helps!!!!! As far as the Pacesetter, in my opinion, looks kidda ghetto to me.

Why does it "LOOK" that way?

...but if you go turbo you will want 3". Although the bigger the louder. A 3" on our car sounds damn good and loud(not rice at all). JasonESi-T's setup is good with a turbo he has 2.75 and a muffler. It gives a little more performance and not too loud a bark while still sounding good(from what I'm told). Maybe he can help shed some light:)

Skrilla
'97 Base Talon NA
"Technology: The Only Replacement for Displacement"
"Peace and Turbo Grease"

Pacesetter is on a scale from 1-10, 10 being GReddy, Tanabe, Apexi, HKS, Pacesetter ranks a easy 2 or 3. I've seen em with broken/split welds on the headers, they don't look that good, and I've heard more horror stories than great satisfaction stories. There is a reason why they are so cheap compared to higher quality parts. If I was gonna get a cheaper exhaust than my Greddy Evo, then I'd have gone with an Thermal R&D, they're pretty good and a little cheaper.

Coo'
1997 RS
AEM Cold Air Intake
B&M Short Shifter
Trust Shift Knob
Trust EVO Exhaust
Front Upper Strut Bar
Rear Upper Strut Bar
AutoMeter A/F Ratio Gauge
'tis it

Damn I was planning to get 2.5 but the dude at the muffler shop told me that I don't have room for that. So is it possible to do 3 inch on ours? I really want big piping. What's a good 3 inch muffler then? Thermal I heard is a good one any others? I really like those kevlar muffler thingies, but they look more expensive than fuctional.


95 Mitsu Eclipse RS
AFX Pulley | B&M Super Oil Cooler | Performance Muffler | HKS Air Filter | KYB AGX Shox | Skunk2 Coilovers | FU, RU, RL, and RRE FL Tie/Strut Bars | RS to TSi Rear Disc Mod | RS to TSi upgraded F&R Sway Bar | 97' Spyder Eclipse 5 Spoke Wheels | HKS TYPE 1 Turbo Timer | Star Stage 1 T3/T04E BB Turbo Kit | Schroth Autocontrol 3-Point Harness | and 1 HiGhLy SkIlLeD DrIvEr! |

If you have the money to spend, don't go with pacesetter. It sounds like crap and it doesn't look that great either. I have an Apex-i world sport setup on my car and I love the sound and the look.


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all motor
no rice :)



Injen w/K+N
Magnecor 8.5's
A'pex-i World Sport cat-back
Front and rear MachV STB's

For Jason's set up. He bought a Pacesetter system and hacket it up :-) He had a cherry bomb as a resonator welded into the middle section. used the Pacesetter piping and put an Aerospeed Muffler(I think?) with turned up tips. (which I stil don't know if I like ;-))

I would say go with the Thermal R&D cat-back of you just want to buy a bolt on. But you can probably do it cheaper if you find a muffler shop that can mandral bend piping.

I've decided I want a custom dual exhaust install, and I'm going to make another post on people opinions on that.

"Claim Victory in your heart, and the universe will follow."
Michael J. Kulaga e-mail: Michael_97RS@2gntDSM.zzn.com
aol IM: MJKulga Website: http://highlander.dsmpower.com/

Injen CAI w/ K&N Breather Filters, AFX UDP, 55mm TB, GS-T Muffler, FU/RU/RL STBs, Front NRG Susp. Motor Mount Ins., Red Silicone Hose Kit, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, Bosch Rapidfire Plugs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730 215/45ZR-17. Front KVR Cross-Drilled Rotors and Carbon Fiber Pads, S-AFC, A/F Meter

And in my Room: Rear disc brake conversion kit, SS Brake Lines, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors and KVR Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads, SS Clutch Line, Rear Motor Mount Ins., EGT

Waiting for from RRE: Front Lower Tie Bar

Waiting for: Intake Manifold being ported/polished

LOL ...you got it Michael(<---Secretly jealous of my stainless steel dual tipped DTM-style Arospeed muffler! ;-) )

BTW, you know my wife's cuz sold his GSX. Whatta punk! you know what he has now.... a 97' Supra TT! :p



Jason
98' Eagle Talon ESi-T
Mitsu Super 16g Turbo(HRC)/Custom FMIC


http://springfielddsm.homestead.com/JasonsPics.html

Ha ha Jason.

Fargin Bastage how dare he sell it. Especially to buy your dream car ;-)

"Claim Victory in your heart, and the universe will follow."
Michael J. Kulaga e-mail: Michael_97RS@2gntDSM.zzn.com
aol IM: MJKulga Website: http://highlander.dsmpower.com/

Injen CAI w/ K&N Breather Filters, AFX UDP, 55mm TB, GS-T Muffler, FU/RU/RL STBs, Front NRG Susp. Motor Mount Ins., Red Silicone Hose Kit, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, Bosch Rapidfire Plugs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730 215/45ZR-17. Front KVR Cross-Drilled Rotors and Carbon Fiber Pads, S-AFC, A/F Meter

And in my Room: Rear disc brake conversion kit, SS Brake Lines, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors and KVR Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads, SS Clutch Line, Rear Motor Mount Ins., EGT

Waiting for from RRE: Front Lower Tie Bar

Waiting for: Intake Manifold being ported/polished