what kinda gains could you expect from this if you were NA?

It's not made for the non-turbo 420 engines it will only fit the turbo 4g63 engines look into the indy intake manifold that should be coming out soon. there are a few posts on the indy manifold just do a quick search.

this says its for the non-turbo:

http://nextcollection.com/html/ORD-Auto~Performance-Venom~Intake~Manifold-No-5139-none.cfm

It says I am not authorized to veiw that link :wary anyways it is probably saying its for the non-turbo 4g63 engine this came in some of the 90-94 eclipse/talon/laser I know for a fact there is not a venom manifold for the eclipse/talon 420a engine.

its says 95-97 eclipse non-turbo, dino says brynden has one.

http://www.boroperformance.com/venappguide3.htm
Eclipse/Talon 1995-97 4 NON TURBO M29-380 F29-135

some one once before said that there was some fabrication in order to get it to fit and it had minimal gains.

Venom makes a manifold for our engine. It's expensive. And it does require you to drill and tap all the sensors and vac lines and shit, along with a PITA install. I am sure it has some gains, but you probably wouldnt get to take advantage of significant gains unless you were running high PSI, our intake mainifolds ported and polished do fine...

Armond did the first install on it, he had to fabricate a lot to get it to install. If memory serves Armond thought it was total crap.

Not worth the money at all, in my opinion. Wait for the Indy manifold, or get some P&P, or extrude hone work done.



15.9 @ 86.7mph
97 Eclipse RS

Injen CAI, 55mm TB, P&P Intake, Crower Stage 2 Cams, Hooker Header, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, Crane Ign Amp, S-AFC

well damn wrong again maybe I should stop posting :9

They must have made some revisions to it since armond's. I saw it and it looks like it will fit fine. Just not sure what gains you will see out of it if you only have mild mods. It looks like it needs big TB, lots of porting, and some nifty cams to get any potential gains out of it NA.