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44328, Best Place For Cam Regrinds Posted by TalonSpeed, Feb-13-03 12:52 PM
What is the best place that can regrind some stock cams into better performing ones?? I did a search and only came up with two places Crower and Gude. I heard some bad things about Gude. Does Crane offer this service.
I want my factory cams to be reground into some hotter cams like the addressive street grind (crower stage 2 or crane #16). I am gonna order some valve springs, PT rocker arms\lifters too. I will be buying a spare head and assembling it before the head swap and timing belt change.
Anybody running regrinds?
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44352, RE: Best Place For Cam Regrinds Posted by mcgyvr, Feb-14-03 03:37 AM
dont run regrinds, just spend the 400 bucks and get real new crower or crane cams
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44360, RE: Best Place For Cam Regrinds Posted by TalonSpeed, Feb-14-03 04:31 AM
Why did you say that? have any bad experience with them?
Check out http://www.dynospotracing.com/cams.htm
This what that website said about regrinds: What other benefits do regrinds on factory cams have over new billet cams? Well, again they are cut on factory billets! And, they have guaranteed factory hardness. Let’s sum up these points:
1-Regrinds are easily cut on factory lobe centers eliminating the need for indexing which the majority of shops do not perform. Indexing is a fairly difficult job and requires an expert mechanic most likely with machining skills. Some cams cannot be easily indexed.
2-Regrinds, being cut on stock cams, guarantee factory hardness.
3-Best of all, regrind camshafts run 50-70% cheaper than cams cut on new billets.
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44398, RE: Best Place For Cam Regrinds Posted by Michael_97RS, Feb-14-03 02:31 PM
Cams can only be ground so far on the stock cam, before you have to add material and this can be tricky, if not done right... dangerous.
Regrind to need to shim the lifters to ensure that the valves fully close. Removing material from cams makes the lobes smaller, so to make up for it you have to push the lifters up to get the rockers lifters and valves to make contact for the full rotation again.
You can't add as much variety to regrinds as you can billet cams.
Regrinds are a cheaper alternative to billet cams, but you can't get a radical with regrinds.
Bilet cams are made form a solid core, but they do cost more. Our cams DO NOT require indexing. They are drop in and go. Crane fixed their original set and now they drop in fine. I sent the sample to Crower and run a set of them, they drop in and are perfectly set and in time.
Billet cams you can get any spec, lift duration or overlap, without havning to worry about weakinging the cams or adding material.
If you just want a few ponies extra and don't plan on a lot of mods etc... Get a set of regrinds, and use Crower. But if you want rock-solid cams buy Crower or Crane billet cams.

15.9 @ 86.7mph 97 Eclipse RS
Injen CAI, 55mm TB, P&P Intake, Crower Stage 2 Cams, Hooker Header, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, Crane Ign Amp, S-AFC
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44414, RE: Best Place For Cam Regrinds Posted by MetalJim, Feb-14-03 06:30 PM
Regrinds are good, but new billits are better(for several reasons).
I love my Gude cams. I've never had problems with them....but I'd rather have new billit ones. I couldn't pass up the deal on my cams $200 used. I don't think I'll change them out for new billit cams, but if a good deal on regrinds hadn't come my way then I'd have went with the Crane #14 or the Crower Stage 3.
The new billit cams generate power earlier than the regrinds - my Gude's kick in at around 3500 - and have approximately the same profile as the aforementioned Crane or Crower new billit cams which kick in around 1500-2000. Why is this? Here's my thought on it. I think it has something to do with the attack angles. On a regrind, you have to make the attack angle very steep to achieve descent duration. Also, if you want higher lift then you're forced to take a more steep aproach. Basically there are design limitations with regrinding. With new billits you start with a clean slate - the base diameter is stock and the lift/attack/duration can be designed appropriately.
I dont subscribe to the "weakening" theorys about regrinding, but some people do. There's really not much material removed when you do it.
Some regrinds require shimming the lifters, which is kind of shitty, but I didn't have to do that with the Gudes. New billits don't need shimming because the base diameter is stock. One great benefits of new billit cams is that no matter whether you're getting just a pre-designed cut or you have them custom cut for crazy ass lift - you can just drop em in and run.
One of the(mostly percieved) benefits of regrinds is that you can have it done cheaply. Thats great, but if it's done wrong...well then that's not so great. Also, if you just go out and buy "new" aftermarket regrinds(like Gude) they cost almost as much as aftermarket new billit cams.
 95 Eclipse RS : 5 speed Jeep TB writeup - http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html
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44417, RE: Best Place For Cam Regrinds Posted by tim97rs, Feb-14-03 07:21 PM
i have some regrinds from delta camshaft out of tacoma WA. They are good, i have had no problems with them, even when i was running nos on them. Billets are definatly better, but if your on a budget, these can can hook ya up good.
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44442, RE: Best Place For Cam Regrinds Posted by 420aturbo, Feb-15-03 06:11 AM
I think Crower charges about $150 per cam to regrind. That's roughly $300. Just spend the extra $100 and buy new ones. Trust me, you won't regret it!
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