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39861, ALL-Motor vs Turbo... Posted by jkoston, Dec-17-02 02:13 PM
Ok I live in california
I think i want to go all motor, just get the stroker block from howell with 12.5 compression, or see how the 2.4 swap turns out...But what i'm wondering is about smog..
Now i know you can't pass with turbo but if you make it a transformer for smog then you can pass by putting everything to stock..
But if you rebuild the engine with a higher compression ratio can you pass smog? I mean it would pass visual but what about emissions and other such things? I plan to have enough money for either this summer, so i have to decide which i'd rather do.
I'd rather not deal with making my car a transformer like that, and all motor sounds fun, but if you can't pass smog with higher compression theres no way of making a 'transformer' out of it unless you change the block in and out :wary
So if anyone has ideas
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39862, RE: ALL-Motor vs Turbo... Posted by 2hot97GS, Dec-17-02 02:38 PM
i dont see why you couldnt pass with all motor, you might have to lean it out when they test it, but it mostly depends on how muuch leway they give you.. which is hard to tell.
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39863, RE: ALL-Motor vs Turbo... Posted by JZA69, Dec-18-02 01:20 AM
it would be my guess that you will fail smog with a build motor...If you stick with only upgrading displacement then you should be fine. Well, come to think of it, i dont see why a point or two higher compression would alter the emissions as long as you keep an eye on having the engine run at stoichometry. Dont change cams tho cuz otherwise you wont pass.
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39864, RE: ALL-Motor vs Turbo... Posted by babybeclipse, Dec-18-02 04:29 AM
I don't see why you think he wouldn't pass. What about people in the area with PT Cruisers with cams?
You should pass fine especially with higher comp. ratio because you will be burning the fuel more efficiently.
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39865, RE: ALL-Motor vs Turbo... Posted by Michael_97RS, Dec-18-02 06:05 AM
Good cams with lots of overlap will pull unburned fuel through and CA has stricker emmissions than us in IL. So go all motor, but keep stock cams to switch back to for emissions.
One who displays himself does not shine. One who justifies himself has no glory. One who boasts of his own ability has no merit. One who parades his own success will not endure. - Lao Tzu
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39866, RE: ALL-Motor vs Turbo... Posted by bustrblue2, Dec-18-02 08:12 AM
hey, if you really want all motor then email Gary at Howell and tell him you'd be interested in the 3.0 block also. i still can't find out if he's going to make it or not, but maybe if more people email him then he'll decide to.
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