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37907, Compression Test Question
Posted by DR1665, Nov-22-02 02:19 PM
I tried the search utility first, but no luck there.
I just did a compression test like was suggested back in my Operation Turbo Prep post and here's what I got:
165-155-160-160 (#1-#4, L-R)
Like I said, I'm pushing 135k, and I remember reading or hearing somewhere that 180->200 is the norm or ideal, so I'm a bit nervous. I can't say I feel the car as being any slower than when new and no matter what I do to it, it will never feel fast enough, so is this good, bad average? I'd like to try the leakdown test, but I honestly have no idea how that is done. Other than that, where do I go from here?
Thank you for humoring a newbie.:7
37908, RE: Compression Test Question
Posted by AkAicon, Nov-22-02 02:39 PM
Recent compression check on my rebuilt 420a was 165-170 across the board with stock pistons
37909, RE: Compression Test Question
Posted by MetalJim, Nov-22-02 03:33 PM
Firstly - make sure the engine is warm when you do the compression test.

The numbers do look on the low side(better than mine though). You should try the leakdown to see if its due to ring wear. To do a leakdown, just pour a little oil in the spark plug hole and then test the compression. You don't need much. I usually use about an oil cap full. What this does is creates a hydraulic seal on the ring tops - and it'll make it look like you have perfect rings. If the numbers go up after the leakdown test, then the difference is how much compression loss is due to ring wear. If the numbers don't go up, then your compression loss is being caused by the headgasket or valves/valve-seats.

I'm not sure of there is an exact number on this one, but if you're loosing more than 25-30 psi from ring wear then you may want to think about re-ringing.


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37910, RE: Compression Test Question
Posted by DR1665, Nov-23-02 03:52 AM
Thanks!
I'm gonna do that leakdown test here in the next couple hours. We'll see what we shall see, huh?
Hey Jim! How hard was it to install air horns? I've always wanted to do that. That would scare the S out of people. Especially those in the lifted trucks around here who (literally) look down on tuners.
37911, RE: Compression Test Question
Posted by DR1665, Nov-23-02 11:08 AM
NEW RESULTS!
I just finished the leak down. I redid the compression test since the engine was all warmed up this time for better results and consistency between the test conditions. Looks like I'll be checking into some of the Total Seal gapless rings in the near future...
#1-#4 (Cams->right)
160/240--155/300(pegged gauge)--175/265--265/260
Should I look into the Total Seal? How tough/expensive/much downtime will this be? TIA
37912, RE: Compression Test Question
Posted by DR1665, Nov-23-02 11:09 AM
my bad! cylinder 4 was 165/260
37913, RE: Compression Test Question
Posted by SPL_Eclipse, Nov-23-02 02:51 PM
holy jesus those numbers are WAY high. im not insinuating anything, but are you sure the guage and test were acurate? a 300 compression would be in the neighborhood of 15:1 or roundabouts, right? well, reagrdless even if it wasnt accurate the numbers DID go up, indicating worn rings, so you wont be in the wrong replacing them. BTW...165ish isnt too bad. the service limit (according to my chiltons) is 100.
37914, RE: Compression Test Question
Posted by DR1665, Nov-23-02 05:09 PM
Maybe I just put a bit too much oil in that cylinder? I guessed on a "capful" since I use the Syntec and that's one big ass cap! She smoked like a chimney for about 15min after that. WOW. :7
I was going to check the Chilton's, but where is it? I'm gonna have to ask the GF when she gets back into town tomorrow night, cuz she must have moved it. ("Your car stuff is always all over the place!") :7
How much time and money am I looking at to do a ring job myself? At a mechanics? TIA