I looked in the paper this morning and I found a '97 Eclipse Turbo engine that some guy is selling for $2500 with 31K does this sound like a good deal to you guys?





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For just the engine? If so then no.

absolutly not. it should go for 1000 or less. although, it all depends on your situation. if you REALLY need an engine, the convenience might outweigh the price.

if you have a GS engine why do you want a 4g63?

I wouldn't mess with it, its been tried, it will not work. period.



Jon

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14.21@101mph 10/4/02

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I was looking at getting to since it has a turbo already just to strip it and totaly rebuild it with all the modes. So when it is complete just slap it in. Also I will have a back up engine.


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Eclipse GS 1999 10th Ann.
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AEM Cool Air Intake
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"just slap it in"

Unfortunetely it doesn't work that way. Along with the motor you need the wiring, ecu, tranny, drivetrain..... and 2500 just for the motor is very expensive.

Thanks to all for all the input I think I will can that idea. I guess I will just builed my engine step by step.



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Nology Spark Plugs
AEM Cool Air Intake
Jet Chip

$2500 for a 4g63 is NOT expensive....to get a rebuilt they run around $3500-4,000 to get a new crate motor from mitsu they run $6,000...

I think $2500.00 for a motor with no warranty is kind of poo. 3-5k for a rebuilt yah, but it probably has a warranty. I wouldnt pay $2500.00 for a motor w/ no warranty or no info of how its been treated. As far as putting in the GS, good luck! Not even close to the same car. Hell, when you drive the two, they dont even feel the same. They look the same, but totally different cars(GS-T/GSX vs. GS/RS). Motors dont just swap.

they are the same cars, built on the same assembly line in Normal, Illinois....and yes they do swap very easily....just need the wiring, tranny and motor mounts....everything else is the same..........

The swap very easily..NO.. 420a (chrysler) to a 4g63t ( Mitsu) that is mounted the other way (intake i mean)... Not only would u have to have all the "wiring tranny and motor mount, you would have to move everything, even the damn battery couldnt stay where its at. Engine is on the other side of the engine bay, intake is on the wrong side etc.. I cant believe you just said that, and I will not flame, but im damn sure people will shortly as this topic has been discussed over and over, and over.... then it was discussed a little more, and no you cant do it unless you have 5k to blow just on the installation of the motor, not including the motor, tranny, ecu itself.

why don't you order an engine from the JAP spec ECLIPSE......it has 220 hp that's 10 more than the US spec...and you can pick get it shipped for 1700...comes with tranny, ecu, mounts, everything you need.....

Oh ok so it comes with all that. What about power steering, air conditioning... the list goes on and on. It is a bad Idea IMO and if someone is going to do it then they should give me some money too because they sure like to waste it. Where can you get all that stuff wiring ecu tranny and all for just $1700? Only reason I ask is because when you buy a motor you get just that a motor. You don't usually get wiring harnesses and ecu's with them, let alone a tranny.

i CAN belive i just said that because i have seen and helped out on several of these swaps....so before you go and rant about stuff you don't know....maybe you should get some knowledge about it..

Fuck you. Dont fuckin talk to me like youre anything bitch. All you are is a fuckin little lyin bitch tryin to get peeps to believe him. Youve helped out on SEVERAL fucking 4g63t into N/A eclipse swaps? If I knew how to post up a BS flag i would right now, because you are bullshitting your ass off little boy. Please tell me the steps you went through, and where you mounted things such as the PS, Battery, Alt... please tell me, because NONE of them can stay where the fuck they are at.


P.s. - Sorry to everyone for getting a bit angry in this post, just little jits tryin to be somebody let alone insulting me piss me off

Matt,

I think you went a little overboard there. Talking like that isn't going to make me think more of you, you just came off as arrogant and spoiled. You pay your way through medical school and get all A's, great, we need more good doctors. But that cussing tangent was a little more than I needed to hear, and I am in no way a bitch or anything else. If you came to my school (Tulane) you would hate the rich bastards running around in M3, Maserati, M5, and the occasional DB7 too. And I have been a little frustrated listening to those assholes talk so when I see someone say they get a BMW or 350Z that they didn't do anything to get, it really rubs me the wrong way. You could have explained that you work hard and its medical school instead of being a prick about it. I respect hard work because engineers at this school have it tougher than anybody and thats what I'm doing.

As far as this thread goes, I believe one dude in Chicago got a 4G63 into an NA and it promptly caught on fire. It's foolish to do something that involved, much easier to sell the car and buy what it came with. I wanted a 5.0L Ford engined car, but I didn't try and cram it in my Eclipse. Sold the Eclipse and I'm working my ass off to pay for this Cobra kit that has the 5.0 I wanted. But swapping a Mitsu motor into a 2gnt is the same as trying to swap a 5.0 into say a 300ZX. STUPID. Build what you got. Or buy the right car.

If you guys take this crap into one more post, we will entertain suspension of some accounts.

2GNT forum isn't the place for flame wars. TAKE IT ELSEWHERE!

I would like to apologize everyone for my posts the last two days, nerves only last so long, then they go out. Alot of nonsense going on, and people telling me i dont know what im talking about tends to get on my nerves. I apologize though for bein immature about it, shouldnt have let it get to me, just alot of other stuff going on. I sorry. :') and the callin me spoiled or whatever guy, u got mail (Look jason, I EMAILED instead of continuing on board)

first off, that's really expensive

4g63 can be rebuilt for 550 bucks!!!! if you do the labor yourself... and they go for 800 on ebay