Which one would you guys do and why. Pros, cons, cost, ect. of each

It is VERY difficult to swap a 4g63 into a non-turbo eclipse. You have to swap just about everything, not just the engine itself. Not worth the effort IMO.

Not too sure about the 2.4L engine. Why don't you just keep your engine and turbocharge it??

>Not too sure about the 2.4L engine. Why don't you just keep
>your engine and turbocharge it??

Just curious. Don't plan on swapping anything soon, even if i wanted to i still haven't payed off the car, (just 6K more baby!) :)

dont mean to be an ass, but use search or check things we've seen before. this questions has been asked a MILLION times.

this is not directed towards you nyspeed, but i swear, everytime i look, someone is asking about the same swap ands ask the same questions. Is it hard, will the ecu work, how much will it cost..etc.
I mean, gawd damn, look a few pages back and you will find all the answers your looking for from some other newb who just asked the same thing, 5 days ago.

You know what nappyjim? You're right. For some reason I didn't check the archives this time. DOH! Damn i hate when newbs ask the same question a hundred times too. I needed that.

if u didn't find all the info, ill give sme insight,

who would rather have a 2.4litre motor turbo charged vers a 2.0 motor me and most people considering its like getting a free have a litre for more low end torque..

the swzp is hard but nothing like a 6bolt swap, there are good posts on ehre about it and lots on neons.org check them out if you still interested only 2 people doing the 2.4litre swap ina dsm i know of right now...

me and the the1bill

i just picked up my 2.4litre yesterday wooohoo

latas

where are you guys getting these 2.4 liter engines?

>where are you guys getting these 2.4 liter engines?

Dodge Stratus, Plymouth Breeze, Chrysler Cirrus, Chrysler Sebring convertible, and Dodge Caravan
it is the 2.4 420a

Alain

da 2.4 is da shiz... :-)

they should have put it in our cars in the first place..

Yeah would have loved the 2.4L in our car. too bad it wasn't out yet.

That is the swap I would do, probably will do vs. a 2.2L stroker. Cash is a major issue, and with less than 40k on my 2.0L I have some life left before I need to worry about it.

Watch out on the 2.4L bottom ends, apparently some have a different more domed piston... could cause valve interfierance, especially with some high lift cams.

But yeah there are finally some guys going to get us some real good info on what needs to be done here.

Una salus victus.
He will triumph, who knows when to fight, and when not to fight. - Sun Tzu

Michael J. Kulaga
e-mail: Michael_97RS@2gntDSM.zzn.com aol IM: MJKulga
http://highlander.dsmpower.com/

All motor in the making.

Injen CAI, 55mm TB, P&P Intake Manifold, Crower Stage 2 Cams, Hooker Header, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, S-AFC, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, Crane Fireball HI-6DI2, FU/RU/RL STBs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730, Front KVR Cross-Drilled Rotors & Carbon Fiber Pads

To Be Installed: P&P Milled Head, Rear Disc Brakes, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors & Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads, SS Brake Lines

Can the moderators post an engine swap thread up top and have it stay there like the instructions for the sale/wanted forum do? I just think that would help a little more. Nothing personal to anyone but I'm tired of all these how can I swap a 4g63 into my car posts.

>Can the moderators post an engine swap thread up top and
>have it stay there like the instructions for the sale/wanted
>forum do? I just think that would help a little more.
>Nothing personal to anyone but I'm tired of all these how
>can I swap a 4g63 into my car posts.

its already in the "things weve seen before"

Nice sig pic Kirby...the bikini chick is a nice touch. Have you bought any NGK BKR7E-11 plugs in your area? I have talked to EVERY store in Manassas and none can get me these plugs.

Corbin

'95 ESI-T
HRC+FMIC+ETC...



Gimme fuel...Gimme fire...Gimme that which I desire

Hey corbin I sent you some mail on the plugs brother.

>if u didn't find all the info, ill give sme insight,
>
>who would rather have a 2.4litre motor turbo charged vers a
>2.0 motor me and most people considering its like getting a
>free have a litre for more low end torque..
>
>the swzp is hard but nothing like a 6bolt swap, there are
>good posts on ehre about it and lots on neons.org check them
>out if you still interested only 2 people doing the 2.4litre
>swap ina dsm i know of right now...
>
>me and the the1bill
>
>i just picked up my 2.4litre yesterday wooohoo
>
>latas

Hello!!! ;)

I still work on it!!:(

neither engine would be worth swap unless you can get the 2.4 for cheap as shit... Am I the only one who thinks theres not much gain fron the 2.4?

It is a 22% increase in the displacement of the motor. 22%. That is the same as boring and stroking a 350 out to 427 cubic inches. That is a hefty gain. Another thing to realize is that the gain is entirely in stroke, not in bore, so this will gain a lot more torque then horsepower, but since the rods are longer (heh) the rod angle is no worse. The rev-ability that is lost is minor for that reason. To rev high, however, I would recommend a fully balanced bottom end.
Anyways, if you hadn't noticed, I think that this will be a more then worthwhile swap. My math shows that this motor will increase the power of a 2GNT the same amount as a Stage 1 turbokit. A 2.4L equipped 2GNT should, however, be quicker then a stage 1 turbo'd 2gnt due to the disproportionate increase in torque. I will let you all know as soon as I finish putting my car back together and get it on a dyno.
-=B-=

On the recommendation of a balanced bottom end, remove the balancing shafts. With a balanced bottom end they do nothing but sap power.

Una salus victus.
He will triumph, who knows when to fight, and when not to fight. - Sun Tzu

Michael J. Kulaga
e-mail: Michael_97RS@2gntDSM.zzn.com aol IM: MJKulga
http://highlander.dsmpower.com/

All motor in the making.

Injen CAI, 55mm TB, P&P Intake Manifold, Crower Stage 2 Cams, Hooker Header, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, S-AFC, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, Crane Fireball HI-6DI2, FU/RU/RL STBs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730, Front KVR Cross-Drilled Rotors & Carbon Fiber Pads

To Be Installed: P&P Milled Head, Rear Disc Brakes, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors & Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads, SS Brake Lines

Uh, that's what I meant. Remove the balance shafts and balance the bottom end. I did just that, well, without the whole balancing the bottom end part. :D So yeah, stock bottom end and no balance shafts. That, and a set of energy suspension motor mount inserts and some windo weld... and the passenger side motor mount will be solid. Seen vibrations? I will!
-=B-=

Yeah I've tried the solid motor mount on my Neon... talk about vibration... wow!

Speaking of motor mounts, I'm curious on what you did with passenger side, and some other things. I'll probably bug you next time I see you on IM.

Una salus victus.
He will triumph, who knows when to fight, and when not to fight. - Sun Tzu

Michael J. Kulaga
e-mail: Michael_97RS@2gntDSM.zzn.com aol IM: MJKulga
http://highlander.dsmpower.com/

All motor in the making.

Injen CAI, 55mm TB, P&P Intake Manifold, Crower Stage 2 Cams, Hooker Header, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, S-AFC, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, Crane Fireball HI-6DI2, FU/RU/RL STBs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730, Front KVR Cross-Drilled Rotors & Carbon Fiber Pads

To Be Installed: P&P Milled Head, Rear Disc Brakes, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors & Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads, SS Brake Lines