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Topic subjectType R VTEC in a DSM....
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33097, Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by DSMDRIVER69, Sep-18-02 09:16 AM
I was talkin to my friend today about cars and he brought up my eclipse.. then he said I should drop in a Type R vtec in my 95 eclipse GS. Just wondering here, is it even possible to do so.?
33098, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by soldier101, Sep-18-02 09:30 AM
ill answer your question with a answer/question

anythings possible with enough money, but will it be worth it :P
33099, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by shuwa29, Sep-18-02 09:31 AM
next time you see your friend, slap him with the "SHUT THE FUCK UP" stick. he desearves it for that comment.
later
33100, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by HadesOmega, Sep-18-02 09:38 AM
it's a nice engine but do you really want 5 reverse gears and 1 forward gear?

haha if you have the money and I mean MONEY get a F20 S2000 engine it spins the right way and makes gobs of power at higher RPM.
33101, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by mitsuman, Sep-18-02 10:01 AM
if you are even gunna spend any money on an engine get a h22 200 hp form a NA enigne. but of course it would not be wurth the money. 2400 for motor/tranny/ecu and you still need some qustom axles and shiet. and motor mounts, etc. its rerally not wurth it. jes go turbo for that money and youl have same hp. much easier.



(im the black one)

-mitsuman
95 gs 5-spd
Hrc stg 2
33102, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by DarkOne, Sep-18-02 10:39 AM
I feel sick for even considering the thought..
33103, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by Dirty, Sep-18-02 11:27 AM
Fucking honduh engines in a DSM????? MY God! What has happend here. I think someone needs to make a smiley that pukes so I can post it 100,000,000,000,000, times. I will never be the same again....and I needed to go to sleep tonight.








33104, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by 9D9 MITSU RS, Sep-18-02 12:41 PM
OK. let me break it down. BOOST RESPONDS GREAT TO MODS! 4G63 will swap in easier. BUT hell, for the $$$, get a turbo kit and rebuild on low comp. THEN, YOU WILL DEFEAT THE AVERAGE TYPE R. AND YES, CAPS ARE NECESSARY!
33105, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by soldier101, Sep-18-02 01:40 PM
> OK. let me break it down. BOOST RESPONDS GREAT TO MODS!
>4G63 will swap in easier. BUT hell, for the $$$, get a turbo
>kit and rebuild on low comp. THEN, YOU WILL DEFEAT THE
>AVERAGE TYPE R. AND YES, CAPS ARE NECESSARY!



hehehe steve, they are in this case.
33106, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by 95_ESi_Person, Sep-18-02 02:27 PM
someone aughta kick your ass for even asking that.... a honda motor in a dsm?!!! you out of you mind??????????
33107, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by 9D9 MITSU RS, Sep-19-02 01:50 AM
DSM motor in a honda works. Honda motor in a DSM isn't right. :P I saw a pic somewhere of a crx with a 4G63.
Also saw a crx with an NSX engine mounted to a roll bar, etc in the back. Kinda kewl. It was on hi-rev tuners. :P
33108, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by a_miller_76, Sep-19-02 02:31 AM


Print this out, make it into a sticker and a button...put the sticker on your friends car, and make him wear the button...



And tell him he got.....


33109, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by EclipseTical, Sep-19-02 02:45 AM
as requested ^^^^^
NOOOOOO. please don't bastardise the DSM more than ricers have. Go slap your friend as shuwa stated, then smack yourself for thinking long enough about it to actually post about it.





33110, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by guest, Sep-20-02 02:10 AM

33111, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by JT, Sep-20-02 03:48 AM
The B18C5 is a great motor, for a HONDA. The F20C is an even better motor, but way out of the reach financially for most. The B20-VTEC is the cheap way to destroy the B18C5 for cheap.

However, you have a DSM, and not a Honda, so don't waste your time.

If you want a Honda motor, buy a Honda (1G CRX for cheap!)


33112, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by a_miller_76, Sep-20-02 07:31 AM


Besides Honda engines will have like 120 hp but only 80 trq. (not exact but just to give you an idea) If we have 140 hp or trq is damn close to that number too. Hondas are very weird. That's why you can almost always jump a honda, so if they beat you it will be in the long run, not off the line.
33113, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by Mo Grass, Sep-20-02 07:50 AM
OK...I love my eclipse, always will.... but I'm smart enough to say that the VTech engine is better (stock wise). but if you want one buy a honda...dont put it in a DSM.

33114, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by Joshua97478, Sep-20-02 10:39 AM
I believe you may have just opened the gates of hell with that statement you blasphemer. How DARE you say openly that a honda is in anyway better than Our might DSM!!! J/K dood.
33115, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by DVSJAY, Sep-20-02 12:43 PM
I love DSM and i love some hondas but i'll never thought of mixxing the two it's really not worth it, as i'm sure u know. I have seen stranger things, hell my dad and i are putting an 4AGE (toyota) in his 73 MG midget. but if you do a swap it's usally good idea to step up.. not sideewaise or backwards. by the way the type-r is rated @ 197 hp well the jdm ones are. and the motor is usally over 5,000 with tranny and ecu, if u can find it. not worth it,. my imo. the end defeats the means.

Jay


33116, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by 98Talon, Sep-20-02 01:08 PM
tell your friend if I ever see him I'm going to kick his ass.



33117, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by EclipseTical, Sep-25-02 12:24 AM
>OK...I love my eclipse, always will.... but I'm smart enough
>to say that the VTech engine is better (stock wise). but if
>you want one buy a honda...dont put it in a DSM.

true honda makes some amazing engines but they would not be beneficial to us. And it's VTEC, VTECH makes those tail light covers.

33118, RE: Type R VTEC in a DSM....
Posted by Squid, Sep-25-02 12:44 AM
How can anyone say that Honda's engines are better? They are reliable, sure. But in terms of performance they suck.

The S2000’s marvelous engine makes 240hp @8300 rpm but only 153ft-lbs @7500 rpm. Meanwhile our engine makes 140hp @6000 rpm and 130ft-lbs @4800 rpm. Torque is what gets you moving. The torque is so damn high in the rpm range that you can’t use it in everyday driving. If your everyday driving consist of dropping the clutch at redline and roasting your tires at every stop light then get a Honda, but in my daily commute my car rarely brakes 3500 rpm.