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Topic subjectUnder drive pulley
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32024, Under drive pulley
Posted by JamieKS, Sep-06-02 09:15 AM
I was wondering, i heard people talking about underdrive pulleys and i've seen them in magazines. But i want to know more about them to see if i should buy one instead of headers. What all do i need to buy for an underdrive pulley? Do i need new belts? Do i need to adjust timing or anything? THanks alot for your help.
Jamie
32025, RE: Under drive pulley
Posted by techboy, Sep-06-02 09:40 AM
An underdrive pulley simply limits the power used for accessories, thus creating more power to the motor itself. The most popular one for the 2GNT is the AF/X available through howell. Most UDP's come with all the belts you need and cost around 250ish new. Most people seem to agree they generate about 12+HP right to the wheels for eclipse's. Do a search on this topic and you will find a ton of hits.


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32026, RE: Under drive pulley
Posted by vegasdsmr, Sep-06-02 10:01 AM
hit up my site if u wanna read an intsall how-to...

about 8-12 whp dyno proven, and that was on a neon, and we loose more weight so the gain will prolly be more...

u will need to tighten the belts up about a weeek after install, but then if u did the install right, u will only have to replace the belts for normal maintenance...

good luck either way.
32027, RE: Under drive pulley
Posted by MetalJim, Sep-06-02 10:24 AM
Unorthodox has a good explanation of how the power is obtained. Here is a quote from thier site:

<QUOTE>
These power gains are obtained in a few ways. First, and most important, is the weight loss. There is an average of 2.7 HP gained from every pound lost off the crank shaft. 85% of our gains are from weight loss.

Second, you are not driving any accessories with our Ultra Race crank pulley except the alternator (and water pump in some applications). The rest of the gains are from the underdriving, which accounts for about 15% of the total gains.
</QUOTE>

Alot o peeps use the AFX UDP...like me. I love it. Here's some visuals for you.

Stock pulley weight:


AFX UDP weight:


Side by side comparison. The stock one is big and steel. The UDP is small and alluminum:



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32028, RE: Under drive pulley
Posted by vegasdsmr, Sep-06-02 07:45 PM
nice pixxx...
32029, RE: Under drive pulley
Posted by Dont_need_8, Sep-09-02 05:10 PM
>Most UDP's come with all the belts you need
>and cost around 250ish new.

Received mine from www.ptuning.com for 159.99 w/ belts.
32030, RE: Under drive pulley
Posted by Jasvb TS2K2, Sep-10-02 03:16 AM
I got my Unorthodox, before I knew of the AFX, for $212 shipped plus $30 for the Gates belts. So shop around and get the best deal...:thumbsup



32031, RE: Under drive pulley
Posted by JSMOTHRS, Sep-10-02 09:46 AM
I've heard if you have a system in your car and you get underdrive pulleys the wattage to the amp goes down and makes the speakers not hit as hard or perform as good than before .





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32032, RE: Under drive pulley
Posted by Dont_need_8, Sep-10-02 02:26 PM
I have two kenwood amps 1 pushing my main speakers (front and back), the other pushing 2 tens. I will let you know if there is any difference after installing my UDP. I have read on other boards where it made no difference and that most accessories are over powered by the engine to begin with, but it would probably depend on how taxed your alternator is and how big of a system you are pushing. If you have a big system the extra 10 horsepower will not matter against the extra tonnage of multiple amps and large speaker boxes anyway, therefore a UDP would not be suggested.

Right now I have zero light dimming issues or any other tell tale signs of inadequate power response, lets keep the fingers crossed.
32033, RE: Under drive pulley
Posted by Dont_need_8, Sep-13-02 04:11 PM
UDP is in and I have not noticed any difference in my stereo or lights. Car seems to rev a little faster. It may be too early to tell the affect at this point, I also think my fuel maps in the computer reset from lack of power during install. No belts squealing either.