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32005, Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by Matt23O, Sep-06-02 03:18 AM



I have a 2.5" catback exhaust for my Mitsuibishi Eclipse RS. I am unsure what size testpipe I should buy.
Is the 2.5 straightpipe going to allow too much free airflow for my 4 cylinder non turbo Eclipse?
Will the 2.25 straightpipe be quieter than the 2.5?

32006, RE: Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by a_miller_76, Sep-06-02 03:54 AM


There are a lot of threads based on this question. Use the search command to find one of them.

Most people say you lose more low end torque than you gain in high end HP and it's not worth it to buy one at all.
32007, RE: Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by soldier101, Sep-06-02 09:21 AM
for non turbos, you need backpressure, to produce torque, when you got that nice exhaust, you eliminate back pressure, slap a turbo on there and it'll be able to breathe in and out really well and be able to FLY
32008, RE: Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by techboy, Sep-06-02 09:34 AM
What they ^^^^ said.


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32009, RE: Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by vegasdsmr, Sep-06-02 10:01 AM
ahem, backpressure is a myth.............
32010, RE: Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by JZA69, Sep-06-02 10:17 AM
my NT with a full catback Apexi N1 and Greddy header definitly lost some low end and gained a little bit in the top end...It's a little bit faster than before but i was dissapointed with the gains....When i had my older turbo, after installing a highflow exhaust and downpipe, there was a huge boost in power....Id say in NT trim, catbacks arent really worth it.
32011, RE: Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by MetalJim, Sep-06-02 02:32 PM
Why don't race cars use a catalytic converter?

Get either size - they'll both do the trick. :thumbsup


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32012, RE: Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by 420AYE, Sep-06-02 04:22 PM
The same reason why people take them off or guy them.
32013, RE: Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by FlyinEsi, Sep-06-02 06:21 PM
>Why don't race cars use a catalytic converter?

Race cars don't have them because their engines are built totally different. They are built to use the least restrictive intake and exhaust possible. The engines would run even better on those cars if they could just be released to the engine bay, but we all know that isn't a realistic possibility.

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32014, RE: Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by a_miller_76, Sep-07-02 01:56 AM


Why don't race cars use cats???

Why don't race cars use mufflers either?...duh...
32015, RE: Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by EvuLFleA, Sep-07-02 04:13 AM
How often is a racecar at 1000-3000 rpm's?

You definately notice a loss of torque. To be honest my car is more fun to drive around town with the stock intake on because it has so much torque and just feels "zippy" around town.
32016, RE: Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by Breezio, Sep-07-02 05:11 AM
>How often is a racecar at 1000-3000 rpm's?
>
>You definately notice a loss of torque. To be honest my car
>is more fun to drive around town with the stock intake on
>because it has so much torque and just feels "zippy" around
>town.

stock intake and exhaust OWNZ JOO!! around town that is ;)
32017, RE: Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by Justin99RS, Sep-07-02 12:49 PM
i've been experimenting with different exhaust and intake setups...from what i have seen the loss is torque from having a catback is minimal...i can deffinatly tell there is more power with the catback on...and the top end is very very nice...
32018, RE: Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by JSMOTHRS, Sep-07-02 01:06 PM
I have the Apex n1 cat-back exhaust also but mines for a GS. I'm going to buy a turbo kit soon . What will happen to the back pressure that I have now will it be to much that I will have to buy a cat-back exhaust for a gs-t or will it just be fine?





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32019, RE: Is my exhaust too good?
Posted by 2gdsm_nc, Sep-07-02 01:47 PM
just my .02 (drag cars dont use cats or mufflers because there using methanol + gas, or racing fuel as most people call it. using this in your cat'd car, the exhaust would melt that honeycomb inside of your cat or muff. and suddenly block it, and everyone knows, with no exit for exhaust to go what happens......boooooom.