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31905, ok i need everyons opions on this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by qwad65, Sep-04-02 11:55 AM
ok i have a 1999 rs with a stage 1 star kit i was thinking of selling it for like 13 14 grand and getting a like a 1996-1999 with like 80-100k miles on it with good body and interior ,and take the money i made buy selling it and do a rebuild ,star stage 2 ,rims,and a body kit.if i sell it for 13,000 i will make about 4-5,000 in profit.do you think this is a good idea or what please help me out with your opinions
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Posted by 420aVenger, Sep-04-02 12:00 PM
You'll never get close to 13 or 14K for it IMO.
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Posted by qwad65, Sep-04-02 12:20 PM
ok but is it a good i dea to rebuild a 100k car? and turbo it
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Posted by Avenger EST, Sep-04-02 12:22 PM
you don't want my opinion on this one.

A.D.P.
"...If you do too much, people become dependant. If you do to little, people loose hope. If you do it right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
bring it on............
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Posted by XtremeRS, Sep-04-02 01:12 PM


Hehe..keep your car man..
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Posted by EclipzeGamer, Sep-04-02 01:15 PM
On our blocks, as long as your compression is good, you can turbo pretty safely no matter what, or so I hear. I believe mitsuman has 166k on his engine and is/was stage 2 hrc.



Jaeson
'96 Eclipse RS

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Posted by qwad65, Sep-04-02 01:19 PM
i need reasons and all your opinions even if thier bad ones ok thank you.the ony reason i would it is to make some money and rebuild with that money
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Posted by eclipse804, Sep-04-02 01:27 PM
Good idea to sell it for 13k but would you have a buyer that would buy it? If so, then figure out if it would be worth the extra work and time to sell the car and buy another and rebuild. I am trying to sell my car, will post ads soon. But I will have to be patient to hope someone will give me the amount I want.
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Posted by qwad65, Sep-04-02 01:37 PM
but do you think rebuilding a 100k mile car is a goo idea ?and would be a reliable car?
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Posted by fasterGS, Sep-04-02 02:42 PM
So let me get this straight, you are going to sell your ECLIPSE, then go out and buy another ECLIPSE, so you will have a higher mileage car so you can rebuild it?? Excuse me for saying this, but YOU MAKE NO FUCKING SENSE BRO!!!

Keep your car, keep the boost low until you can afford to rebuild it.
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Posted by qwad65, Sep-04-02 10:31 PM
yes but if i sell it for what i want to sell it for i will make like 3-4,000 on the deal and thats my re build thats why i would do it.
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Posted by talonESi20, Sep-04-02 11:18 PM
It's virtually impossible to "make money" on a car. That's my opinion.
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Posted by a_miller_76, Sep-04-02 11:56 PM


Dude, i see where you're coming from...but by the time you go through all this crap you're gonna have a higher mileage car....that's the point. Don't mess with it. Keep yours, save your money, build yours...that's what tuning is about.

Trust me...I'm hurting for mods too...but I'm not coming up with grand schemes that won't work. You won't get $13,000 for that car. I don't care what you have on it. I just bought a 99 RS with 60K on it and it's worth $9,000...and it's in great shape. So you're not gonna get an extra $4,000 for that kit. Now, consider that 1 out of every 10 potential buy MIGHT be interested in the fact that you've tuned the car...most people will say "Uhm...you've ADDED a turbo?" and think it's crap cause you did that.

So maybe you can find some dumbass rich kid to buy it from you...if you do, and you want to procede....go for it. You seem to be set in your ways no matter what we tell you. But the general concensus is to keep yours.
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Posted by BoostedGS, Sep-05-02 12:23 AM
Even if you did find someone to buy the car for your asking price and got an extra $4k out of the deal, that wouldn't even be close to enough money for a rebuild, stage 2 turbo kit, rims, and a body kit. How much is the Star stage 2 kit, almost $3k? A rebuild will probably cost you more than a $1k even if you do most of the work yourself. A decent set of rims and tires will cost you around $1k as well. And I'm not sure how much body kits cost, but I'm sure they aren't really cheap and then you have to get it painted.

I'd say just save up some money and add mods to your current car.
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Posted by qwad65, Sep-05-02 02:06 AM
i have a 1999 rs stage 2 turbo 47k miles on it i think i should ge atleast 12, right know i have spent 9,000 on everything for my car thats including the car.i have 18 inch rims star stage 1 gauges and other stuff you dont think i would get that mutch for it.the hole idea is to make money for a rebuild.and a nnother turbo kit.i dont know what i should do here if i sell it it will be for no less than 13,000 if i get that is it worth rebuilding a high miledge? car i dont no what i should do?
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Posted by mkerley, Sep-05-02 02:56 AM
Do you not get it???
You paid 9k for it. Who's gonna buy it for 13k!!??

NOBODY!

If they do, let us know. I'm sure several of us will be happy to sell ours to them for 30K.

Keep your car, save money build it later, and stop wasting space with ignorant posts.
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Posted by fasterGS, Sep-05-02 03:21 AM
Hmmm... you had a Star stage 1 at the top of this post, now you have a stage 2...

And let me tell you since it does not seem to sink in very well. In your mind your car might be worth 13k. It very well might be worth 13k. But unless you find someone that knows something about 2gnts and knows something about turbo kits then that kit almost decreases the value. People do not want a car that has been heavily modded because they are afraid the car has been hot-rodded and abused. Now I believe there is nothing more to discuss. People have told you their opinion, but you seem too thick headed to listen to us. So quit posting crap like this if you don't want to hear our responses.
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Posted by Not Your Daddy, Sep-05-02 03:50 AM
Keep your car man. Take your time and build it up.
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Posted by brynden29, Sep-05-02 04:52 AM
I am with faster and mkerley on this one...

Do not ask the question if you can not stand the answer.

Keep your stage 1.5 - 2.0 turboed car. Or whatever you have.
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Posted by Kirby, Sep-05-02 05:08 AM
yeah bro it's not going to work you won't be able to get what you want and you still wouldn't have enough to do what you want to do. Just keep yours and when it dies rebuild it. You havn't even been turbo that long why are you so intersted in a rebuild? Your car is reliable now and you have most of the things your talking about buying again. You can't trade shit for choclate! not trying to me mean at all but the world just don't work that way bro. You can't make money on a car it's the worst damn investment ever as far as return values go. With a new car you loose a couple grand just leaving the lot.
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Posted by qwad65, Sep-05-02 06:08 AM
ok iam going to keep my car! but you dont think some ritch kid on ebay would buy it? for that mutch
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Posted by Logic3, Sep-05-02 06:16 AM
no
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Posted by qwad65, Sep-05-02 06:32 AM
its not that i cant stand the qwestions i just iam wondering why your guys are like so sure that its not a good idea .i gess you know more than me about our cars.thankx for the help
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Posted by mkerley, Sep-05-02 06:45 AM
No one said anything about knowledge about our cars. It's simple economics. Common sense. If you could buy something for a quarter and then resell it for 50 cents after you used it, we'd all be millionaires and we wouldn't have to worry about a measly 3 grand for a turbo kit.

Simply put, *most cars depreciate (www.m-w.com for the meaning). The second you drive off the lot, you've lost money. Therefore, since you won't make money on your car, your idea won't work.


Note:
* with the exception of rare and exotics. Eclipses qualify as neither of these.


>its not that i cant stand the qwestions i just iam wondering
>why your guys are like so sure that its not a good idea .i
>gess you know more than me about our cars.thankx for the
>help

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Posted by qwad65, Sep-05-02 08:45 AM
i know what your saying but mabye this dosent aply to me i paid 6,000 for my car a 1999 rs with 46,000 miles on it from a family member,dose this change anything?
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Posted by Weezle745, Sep-05-02 11:16 AM
>i know what your saying but mabye this dosent aply to me i
>paid 6,000 for my car a 1999 rs with 46,000 miles on it from
>a family member,dose this change anything?

no


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Posted by Chris_FL, Sep-05-02 01:59 PM
wow...you're pretty stubborn! I mean if you're so sure you can do this, then try and sell it. You'll probably won't get more than $7000 for it, but then again what do we know.

I'm guessing you're fairly young and this is probably your first car. Most of us here have sold and purchased MANY cars. I think we have a pretty good idea about this. If what you want to do is possible then the name of this website would be www.2gntweallsoldthemandboughtgs-tsinstead.com
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Posted by qwad65, Sep-05-02 02:18 PM
look man i said iam not selling my car. iam just talking now and i gess you dont now anything about cars case i would deff.get mor than 7,000 for it,and everyone nows that. so dont be a dick man
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Posted by BoostedGS, Sep-05-02 03:17 PM
BS. I considered trading my car in 2 years ago, and they would only offer me $7500 for my GS, which came with more options than your RS did. At that time, my car was in excellent condition, minus the turbo kit, and also had fairly low miles.

The dealership does not care what mods your car has on it, they will still only offer usually below blue book price on it. If anything, having the turbo kit on the car will lower the value to commercial dealers.

So that leaves you with the one in a million chance that you'll find a sucker that wants to overpay you for your stage I turbocharged RS. In reality, you'll never sell that car for more than about $8k. And EVERYONE knows that. :P
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Posted by Chris_FL, Sep-06-02 01:12 AM
>i gess you dont now anything about cars case i would
>deff.get mor than 7,000 for it,and everyone nows that. so
>dont be a dick man

I'm not being a dick, I'm being honest. I guess I don't know as much about cars as you do. I'm not the one that started this thread. You asked a question, you got responses. That is what we are here for. What's upsetting is how you continue to argue with idiotic points. Look never mind. How's this. This is obviously what you want to hear.

"That's a great idea. You'll make a killing. You should sell it for $15,000, that way you can get some extra guages too! Shit I'm gonna do that too. Don't listen to what EVERY SINGLE PERSON in this thread told you. They don't know what they're talking about. They're just hating because you came up with a great idea that no one else thought of."

Now I'm being a dick......

Here's more for you.

Trade in value is $7,235. Now let's say you can sell it to a private party, you can add about $2,000 to that price. For a perfect unmodified car.
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Posted by qwad65, Sep-06-02 01:42 AM
just to let you guys no a gain iam not selling my car.that 7,000 is for a trade in you get raped trading any car in.the reason i had this idea is case i look on ebay and i see 23,28,32 people biding on late model eclipse with just a bbody kit and some rims for like almost 9k.
i think its just people trying to be like the fast and the furious o well thankx for stoping me and your posts