At Mach V Motorsports I saw a complete engine rebuild kit for $549 for the 2gnt Eclipse/Talon. Is the reason it is so much cheaper than the Howell kit because it doesn't come with forged internals and it will just make it a stock 420A again?

MACHV: Does not include cams or timing belt tensioner.$549. Complete Engine, 95-99 2.0 non-turbo $1,999.00. w/12k warranty.

The Howell at $999 does comes with the cams which sep. are $399. And there block is $1,899.00. No warranty.

I'd go with Howell only cause they seem to know what they are doing with us 420A guys rather than MachV which knows more about 4G63's.

and usually Mach V charge more than others.

Ken

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didn't even know they had 2gnt stuff. I met some guys from there since I live in MD which is like 30 mins from them and I know I can get discounts. Ill see what I can do and Ill post when I get prices if anyone is interested.
-Dave

The Howell at 999 is just the top end kit. Does not include bottom end at all. the bottom end kit is another $1K+, so a complete engine rebuild (top and bottom) would be almost $2K. The howell block is only the short block, whereas the machv says complete engine. Fairly substantial difference there as well. But, as far as your question of pistons/rods being factory or aftermarket, I have no idea.

>MACHV: Does not include cams or timing belt tensioner.$549.
>Complete Engine, 95-99 2.0 non-turbo $1,999.00. w/12k
>warranty.
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>The Howell at $999 does comes with the cams which sep. are
>$399. And there block is $1,899.00. No warranty.
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>I'd go with Howell only cause they seem to know what they
>are doing with us 420A guys rather than MachV which knows
>more about 4G63's.
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>
>

Star Stage III

I just checked the Mach V website and they are using remanufactured stock parts. So the answer to your question is yes the parts would be just like going with stock parts.