OK I have decided that I cannot wait any longer for a stage1, instead I am going to purchase the Howell Bottom End, will I notice an HP increase from this...better Idle...anything...?

Well....i am about to notice a power DRoP... :) but wehn i push 12pounds of air into the mani I should feel a lil power gain..... get eh 8.6 compresion and you lose i think 4% So....whatever man....with higher compresion you feel gains...




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>Well....i am about to notice a power DRoP... :) but wehn i
>push 12pounds of air into the mani I should feel a lil power
>gain..... get eh 8.6 compresion and you lose i think 4%
>So....whatever man....with higher compresion you feel
>gains...

If it lowers your compression ratio, then you'll likely lose power. When you get that turbo kit, though, you'll be able to send a lot more boost into that motor than before and therefore be able to make much more power than you would without that bottom end kit.

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If it lowers your compression ratio, then you'll likely lose power. When you get that turbo kit, though, you'll be able to send a lot more boost into that motor than before and therefore be able to make much more power than you would without that bottom end kit.

My entire point....get 8.6....it will be much much more forgivieng...










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Ok...sounds like a plan... so your saying get the 8.6..this should be a fun install. what psi will I be able ot run with this kit? I am guessing 9-10 psi right?

depends what turbo kit etc u get... if u get the 8.6 compression for sure you will be slower till you slap that turbo on... for example, stock internals with a hrc stage 2 kit 8-9psi max, build bottom end with the lower compression you will be able to go past 9psi if you upgrade your injectors and anything around 13-15psi u will need to retard timing... lets just say, built engine 8.6 compression, turbo, injectors and ignition 15psi no problem if tuned ...



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hey vert5, do you have a follow up for this thread yet? i plan on doing a rebuild with the howell bottom end kit and when you said "this should be a fun install" i am just assuming that you plan on doing it yourself. i am curious as to how easy it is for someone with minimal experience (but good mechanical skills) to accomplish a job like this.

8:6:1 stock
8:5:1 3% lower hp
every point is about 3 to 4% hp either way

>8:6:1 stock
>8:5:1 3% lower hp
>every point is about 3 to 4% hp either way


9.6:1 is stock
and 1 point is 4% drop not 1 tenth
meaning fromm 9.6 to 8.6 not 9.6 to 9.5 or even 8.6 to 8.5.

Hey 510eclipse, I know it wont be easy, I am in the same shoes as yourself, I plan on ordering this kit next week. I am going to speak to a few mechanics and ask for some advice, what tools I will need etc. I will let you know asap tho!

vert....im 15 and doing it myself.




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"When you reach real ability you will be able to become one with the enemy. Entering his heart you will see that he is not your enemy after all." -Tjusii

building a bottom end isn't easy at all. there's a whole trade dedicated to this feild. engine builders are not the same as a regular joe shmoe mechanic. if your gonna do it yourself get some books on the matter

My car is slower than a stock geo metro if I blow off an intercooler connector and can't get boost to build, or it feels like that atleast. I woudnt wanna be running lower compression pistons for long without a turbo kit...

Super20, what compression are you running? What could happen to my engine if I run lowcomp. for an extended period of time?

It won't be bad for your car to run lower compression for an extended period of time, but it might be bad for your ego. Like Super20g said, 8.6:1 compression with no boost makes you SLOW!!