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22552, Why is it reversed? Posted by tacoman123, May-07-02 10:15 AM
I was just wondering.. Why is our 420A motor "reversed" compared to cars like Neons, Cirruses, Breezes and all those other car? Did Mitsubishi want that? Did Mitsubishi have any role in designing the 420A? Thanks
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22553, RE: Why is it reversed? Posted by DarkOne, May-07-02 10:27 AM
>I was just wondering.. >Why is our 420A motor "reversed" compared to cars like
It is not. The block sits exactly the same. it is the head that is reversed.
>Neons, Cirruses, Breezes and all those other car? >Did Mitsubishi want that?
See below
>Did Mitsubishi have any role in designing the 420A?
No.
>Thanks
Welcome :thumbsup
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22554, RE: Why is it reversed? Posted by XtremeRS, May-07-02 10:30 AM
Don't know really why it is reversed in the other 420A cars. But be thankful it's the way it is facing in our cars, much easier to bolt on the turbo :) Also, as far as i know, the 420A was designed by Chrysler, and had contracts with Mitsu to supply their cars with the 420A, or something along those lines...
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22555, RE: Why is it reversed? Posted by Breezio, May-07-02 11:30 AM
>Don't know really why it is reversed in the other 420A cars. >But be thankful it's the way it is facing in our cars, much >easier to bolt on the turbo :)
except that it's a less heat efficent design.. cause the intake is in the back.. you get the most hot air blowing over the parts (from the radiator, exhaust, and head) while in the neon's and such.. the intake is in the front and the air is only heated by the radiator. keep in mind i'm not talking about the air your motor intakes 'into' the engine.. but the air the blows over the engine parts.
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22556, RE: Why is it reversed? Posted by wakebord99, May-07-02 12:05 PM

97' Eclipse RS (kinda)
Present mods: HRC stage III turbo kit (12 psi street, 25 psi track) / HKS 2 1/2" cat back exhaust w/burnt cat / 16" wheels w/Yokohomo tires (215/40) / 420A engine w/ tooled crank, billet crower rods, and 8.5:1 JE pistons / Head ported and polished, 3 angled valve job Power-stop brakes w/axis pads / Ebachi Pro lowering kit (1.8") / MSD DIS-2 ignition system w/turbo retard
Near Future: Stand-alone fuel system / 550cc injectors, and fuel rail / TEC III fuel/ecu system / 17” Hart racing wheels / KYB AGX struts, w/ upgraded anti sway bars / Rear brake conversion (front to rear, Brembo in front)
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22557, RE: Why is it reversed? Posted by 9D9 MITSU RS, May-07-02 04:25 PM
all the others are backwards. :) Just b/c they felt like making people like you ask. I dunno. Good question.
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22558, RE: Why is it reversed? Posted by Dirty, May-08-02 07:45 AM
The 420a in the Avenger is in the same place as ours. The AEM CAI part# is the same and most header part#s are the same. In fact, from the front seats all the way up is the same. The Eclipse and the Avenger are about the same damn car just a different body.
AEM Cold Air Intake (Optional) Air Bypass Valve 2.5" Custom Cat-Back (Optional) Testpipe Pacesetter Header A/FX Underdrive Pulley A/FX Bored Throttle Body S-AFC Weapon R Coilovers Arospeed Strut Bars Grillcraft Grills NGK Plugs & Wires Custom Stuff
On the Shelf: AEM Tru Time Cam Gears Gauges & Pillar
AEM Cold Air Intake (Optional) Air Bypass Valve 2.5" Custom Cat-Back (Optional) Testpipe Pacesetter Header A/FX Underdrive Pulley A/FX Bored Throttle Body S-AFC Weapon R Coilovers Arospeed Strut Bars Grillcraft Grills NGK Plugs & Wires Custom Stuff
On the Shelf: AEM Tru Time Cam Gears Gauges & Pillar
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22559, RE: Why is it reversed? Posted by AvengerES97, May-08-02 02:20 PM
Our 420a's are the right way! Neons are backwards!!! :P JK!!!
Chris Jones 1997 Dodge Avenger ES 5spd "Racing Your Honda Is Like Running In The Special Olympics.....Even If You Win You're Still Retarded!!! :P
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22560, RE: Why is it reversed? Posted by 9D9 MITSU RS, May-09-02 04:59 AM
size and shaping of body and where the motor mont locations have to be might play a big part in the way the motor has to go.
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22561, RE: Why is it reversed? Posted by Michael_97RS, May-09-02 06:29 AM
My thoughts are, because of the way the suspension and frame work run on the Ecllipse compared to the neon you could not have the exhaust in the back of our car. There are frame rails and steering rack etc in the way. The motor would have to be moved forward to make it work. And sincec the car was more concerned with the 4G63(IMO) they reworked the 420A to fit. Again this is only my theory, from a guy who didn't finish his engineering degree, so take it for what it's worth.
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Injen CAI, 55mm TB, Hooker 4-1 Stepped Header, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, S-AFC, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, Crane Fireball HI-6DI2, SS Clutch Line, NRG Susp. Motor Mount Ins., FU/RU/RL STBs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730 215/45ZR-17. Front KVR Cross-Drilled Rotors & Carbon Fiber Pads
To Be Installed: P&P Intake Manifold 1/2, P&P Milled Head, Rear Disc Brakes, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors & Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads, SS Brake Lines
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