Just got my "Corbin Industries" intake manifold spacer in the mail today. Very nice piece! The garolite material is actually very hard, much more so than I was expecting. Real high quality work. Hopefully we can get some numbers IAT sensor numbers posted up soon.

Any chance you'll do another run of these Corbin? There might be some more people interested out there.

juan

im down to see the intake temp diff, and the butt dyno experience,

+1 interest

I'm interested too. Cant wait to hear about the results!

Since this was the the first run, I want to see how things go before I commit to a second run. I want to hear results, suggestions, problems. I tried to think of everything, but what you guys think of them is what matters.


Corbin

'95 ESI-T
HRC+FMIC+ETC...

can someone fill me in on what your talking (uh...well posting) about? Intake air temp change with spacers?

Corbin designed and made/outsourced a insulating spacer that goes between the upper and lower portions aof the intake manifold. the spacer insulates the upper manifold from getting hot and transfering that heat to the incoming air. simply put it lowers intake temps and gives more power.
-Josh




weapon-r intake
greddy headers
apex-i n1 catback
afx udp
energy suspension
motor mounts
cf altezza tail lights
bored t/b
magnecore wires
hotter plugs

But when u space out the intake manifold in our car, wouldn't that also bring our injectors further away from our head.. and making them less of a direct port injection??.

the injectors are in the lower portion, so it doesnt move them.




weapon-r intake
greddy headers
apex-i n1 catback
afx udp
energy suspension
motor mounts
cf altezza tail lights
bored t/b
magnecore wires
hotter plugs

i am interested too.. cant wait to see the results. keep us posted.

Yeah I got mine in the mail a few days ago, now I just gotta get my datalogger so I can see the intake air temperature change.


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me me me! ooo ooo! *raises hands like a crazy person!

corbin... what is the smaller piece and the slightly shorter and longer bolt for? Some kind of EGR thing???

The 5 long bolts and washers replace the 5 stock bolts that connect the upper and lower manifolds. The 1 other long bolt replaces 1 stock bolt that ties the support bracket to the lower manifold. The little square scrap with a hole in it is a bracket spacer. See the picture below.




Corbin

'95 ESI-T
HRC+FMIC+ETC...

ahhh... that would be necessary! Thnx

I would put mine on right away but I need to get a handheld and the pocketlogger so I can get real numbers.



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if all goes good ill probably be able to provide some before and after datalog results this weekend.. :-)

ooooooooh, I want on tooo! If it works how much?!

ok, i still dont get it... i might be a little slow at this new shit but what exactly does it do.. allows more air flow? from the intake mani to the engine? if so how?

It keeps intake air cooler, meaning denser, meaning more power, theoretically :P. It keeps the air cooler because the spacer transfer basically NO heat from the engine block itself, it also increases the length of the intake runners. Now I've got one too, (thanks Corbin) I haven't installed it yet because I'm waiting for my extra upper and lower intake manifolds and throttle body, gonna send them into ARD and have them port and polished and the TB bored :P.

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Corbin, are you planning to make any more? Maybe we can setup a larger groupbuy this time, like 15 to 20 buyers. I'd really like to see some intake temp comparisons. I remember people arguing that the air moves so fast, the temperature of the intake piping wouldn't matter. But I think it should, so hopefully there will be some good results.

I have just talked to the people at ard tonight and plan to send my TB and intake mani aswell they said they are going to have spacers of their own available within 1 week. So if you get the numbers and they prove to work I would definitely be interested in the group buy too. Could save some cash while supporting a fellow 2gnt member.:)

Well its possible that its moving to fast, but that would mean race cars moving fast would overheat since the radiators wouldnt be working as well. But what do I know, aint no thermodynamist ;)

Ahhh...ARD will be making spacers within the week. That sounds deathly suspicious. I thought I could go at least a month before someone else started selling them. I guess I won't be making another batch.


Corbin

'95 ESI-T
HRC+FMIC+ETC...

Corbin, you engineered it, and took the time to develop it. I think you should start a new post about another groupbuy. I'd rather support a pioneering 2gnt member like you than copycats. It's just like that one company copying Buschur's intercoolers and pissing him off. I hate it when people copy other's ideas, so I think you should keep making em if there is interest.

Copyright! All I have to say. Don't know if you can though, maybe a specific way you make it to stand out.

Well its nice to see competition but just 1 week after, damn. That is kind of suspicious. ARD can sell all theirs to the new 2gnt crew a year from now but I would rather buy yours now after you guys get us some #'s.

>Well its nice to see competition but just 1 week after,
>damn. That is kind of suspicious. ARD can sell all theirs to
>the new 2gnt crew a year from now but I would rather buy
>yours now after you guys get us some #'s.

Ya I totally agree. Especially since it's been 5 years of 2gnt with no intake mani spacers, then Corbin comes up with this great idea, engineers it, and now someone wants to copy it. Corbin, we'll support you, so please consider making another batch after we get some results from this batch. Thanks!

if it worx I'm down, how much does it cost though O_O I'm frugal... :P

Thats pretty FUCKED UP SHIT if you ask me. Copy Cat's SUCK ASS!




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If you call ARD, or email them and talk to Owen, i'm sure he will wait or even drop it entirely. He's a cool guy, and i'm sure he would understand. They aren't the kind of people to jump all over someone else's innovation just to make a buck.

yea corbin id buy from u too since you made it first.. call them like dino said they are pretty cool. i dont know them but on email they seem pretty kick ass and most of the houston guys like them.. and since im special fl guest in houston 2gnt im with them

but if it works ill .buy one too

Thanks for the support guys, I do appreciate it. I'll think about calling them, just to see what they have to say. But I realize that I don't own the spacer concept, I didn't patent anything. If people like these first spacers, I'll make a second run of 10 or so pieces. I bought a shitload of bolts, enough for more than 2 runs.

Someone mentioned the speed of the air in the manifold. This is true; at higher operating speeds, each unit of air will have less time in contact with the manifold. All things being equal, each unit of air will pick up less heat. I am expecting the best gains at lower RPMs. I am also expecting a definite improvement in off-idle response. You know when you are idling in traffic in the summer...you hit the gas and the car feels all boggy. Very little air is moving through the manifold while idling. So the air has a long time to heat up. A cooler manifold will keep that volume of air cooler during idle. When you hit the gas, I expect better engine response because of all that available cooler air. If there is any improvement, I think it will be worth the $67.



Corbin

'95 ESI-T
HRC+FMIC+ETC...

If the numbers are good I may need 2-3 :) so do another batch hehe.

It was just suggested by Jody at ard and owen was in the backround saying about 1 week I was not aware Corbin was the first to do this or I would have e-mailed him privately. I wouldn't want to get my TB and Intake back all f!@#$% up. Not that ARD would ever do something like that but you never know. Who knows If all works out maybe they will even consider selling corbins for him (does a shop really have the time to mass produce them). Corbin do you have the time? How well do they work? These questions are all yet to be answered so lets not jump to conclusions yet. However if they do work I would rather support Corbin Industries as I have said earlier.

Here are some articles on comparable products:

Honda S2000:
http://www.s2000.org/mods/insulator/
- gives some IAT measurements too.

Mazda V6:
http://home.san.rr.com/scmorgan/spacers/Theory_FAQ.htm

Dodge V6
http://ww2.netnitco.net/users/cheetah/g5013.html


juan

did anybody dyno this? I would like to get some results if there where any.