i was just wondering wich is a better way to go how mutch will a stroker kit realy help i now a lot about turbos but not stroke kits about how mutch hp will i gain?

You wont gain much HP, but will gain a lot of torque.

Get a turbo, blow your engine, than stroke it when the kit comes out.

Exactly. :-)

One of these days, jeff, people are going to start calling you DarkOne Jr.

NEVER, there is only one true DarkOne!

Hail the Dark Master!!!

Dude, i think you've got something on your nose.. looks kinda brown.. Might want to wipe that off ;-)

What does a stroker kit do? I wanted to get a howell bottom end kit with 12.5 to 1 pistons.

it increases the stroke the pistons/rods follow...so the displacement of the engine becomes like 2.3 or 2.4 AND you have better pistons/rods. all the benefits of the bottom end kit plus more tq. that's what i'm getting in a year or so. i emailed howell about it but they didn't respond. maybe i'll goto their open house.

I thought Gary said it would only increase to about 2.15L

he did..

will going from 2L t0 2.15L (might as well say 2.2L) make that much of a difference in torque??

2150cc is close enough to be called 2.2L - our engines are actually 1996cc stock - 2L, so they say.