I spoke with the programmer. He is willing to try. I need a Talon Computer core 1996 to get started send me one. The person that sends it, will get to do the beta testing "IF!!!!!" we can crack the code.

Thanks

Are the PCM the same between 95-96 and 97-99s? They look different so I'm just wondering. I may have a 99 PCM by next week if you're interested. From an eclipse though.

>Are the PCM the same between 95-96 and 97-99s? They look
>different so I'm just wondering. I may have a 99 PCM by
>next week if you're interested. From an eclipse though.

Check with a salvage yard, Avenger should have the same PCM's

crap. i have a 97... on a side note WAHOO!!! Release will be granted once the product is finshed!!!! :D

>crap. i have a 97... on a side note WAHOO!!! Release will
>be granted once the product is finshed!!!! :D

If the girl in you pic is my jail keeper you may never see a finished product

If you cant crack the code... hmmmmm.... CORBIN!!!!!!!!!!!!

hmmm.... you will get the girl if you get the ecu out by April.... that way everyone can chip in and buy it for me. cause kyle and i have finally took action to get this going!

Sean, does Ray have a spare ECU you could possibly pick up?

Ray's was a 95... 95obdI people werent a part of taking Howell Automotive hostage so they dont get one. HAHA j/p

well will this work on a 95 if we get it cracked or will i always be screwed?

See Gary, look at it this way. you remove the rev limiter, we blow our engines and then we buy rebuild kits from you and you are now making even more money. :D

hey man not fair..

im 95.. i might want one too.. hook it up gary..

95s rule.. shh u guys are just mad cuz we got the first 2gnt ahahah

Would we be able to adjust shift point on auto trans with a "tunable" ecu?

OBDII isn't that bad!

Unfortunately the shift points aren't set in the PCM ... they are set in the TCM (the tranny computer). You'd have to get a replacement for that. I believe level ten has one. It's not even close to cheap though. But I don't think you'd want to change the shift points in an AT. They already shift at redline anyway.

so the if the new ecu comes out it won't be for 95s huh? My harness is a lot smaller than a 96 think. Sigh.... If this thing can adjust my fuel curve like a SuperAFC and still cost about as much as a super AFC I'd gladly get it. :) How much do ecus cost at the yard? I might be able to get one at a full service pick n pull a couple cities down.

Hmm would this ECU's be programmable on the fly? Like can you hook it up to a laptop and program it like you would a Super AFC. Or would the code be set once we bought it?

Gary, I have a 96 MT Ecu, but its not in my posession right now. I'll work on getting it back soonest.

The ECU case has already been opened, BTW. Might make it easier for you.

juan

THANK YOU GARY!!!!! It's not over yet though, finished product = release of hostages!


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Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
Corbin's A/F Gauge
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Drop in K&N Filter and open airbox
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

what hostages do you guys have????? wtf????

if you can play around with my 98 ecu, then i'm game, i could use the downtime to redo a lot of stuff i have been wanting to get done...

Whats with the 95 ECU that keeps you from doing any. No 95 neon AFX ECU's (except a rumored one in existance) and now a 96 ECU is desired. You'd think a 95 with its less complex functions and controls would be easiest starting from scratch.


I can already answer the programmabilty quesion: No. The day we jump pass neon parts progression at Howell hell will freeze over (take no offense, they are your bread and butter so thats the way it should be).

Gary, I think the 96 and 97 computers both have the same pin loactions (I have both manuals), and I know for a fact that they are the same casing (I used to have a 96). I am pretty sure I could get you a 97 ECU as long as I can get it back when you guys are done testing (with MuRiX's permission of course :-p). If It works, I will send my computer also to get the rev limiter removed. As soon as I hear from MuRiX, I shoudl be able to have an ecu your way shortly.

A.D.P.
bring it on............

but are ecu's the same between auto and stick?

my buddy steve did an auto to stick conversion in hsi old RS, and all he had to do ecu wise was plug in a manual ecu to get rid of the 6k rev limiter or whatever it is on the auto (he said it was lower than the stick rev limiter). I never saw his car have a problem.

A.D.P.
bring it on............

Hey Gary,

Please see my post for you in The Pits. :)

Glad you have a good sense of humor about all this Gary.

Wouldn't 96 and up be the same? All OBD-II I "thought" had the same programming. There seems to be a number of '97's available... why not start there (insert devilish grin here)

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The strongest way to block, is never to provoke a blow,
And the cleanest cut is the one withheld."



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Injen CAI, 55mm TB, Hooker 4-1 Stepped Header, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, S-AFC, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, SS Clutch Line, NRG Susp. Motor Mount Ins., FU/RU/RL STBs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730 215/45ZR-17. Front KVR Cross-Drilled Rotors and Carbon Fiber Pads

To Be Installed: Ported/Polished Intake Manifold 1/2, Rear disc brake conversion kit, SS Brake Lines, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors and KVR Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads, Crane Ignition Amp

I think the 96 and 97 neon ecus hav ediffernet casings (I am 80 percent sure that ALL 2gnt cars use the 97+ caseing.....I bought a hanes manual for a neon, but it only had wiring diagrams for the older neon ecu. the one tha thas one giand plug instead of 2 plugs like ours and the later model first gen neons.)

A.D.P.
bring it on............

Absolutely send my ecu if gary wants it. It is the first thing I thought. I am all for trying to blow my top end and whatever else we can think of.

>Absolutely send my ecu if gary wants it. It is the first
>thing I thought. I am all for trying to blow my top end and
>whatever else we can think of.


WOO HOO!!! ALRIGHT MURIX!!


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Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
Corbin's A/F Gauge
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Drop in K&N Filter and open airbox
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

turns out they need a chrysler ecu (talon/avenger/sebring) just for preferrence, so I am sending the ecu out of my 97 venger and will drive around with MuRiX's ecu till I get mine back. I should be able to ship the ecu off on fri. or saturday.

A.D.P.
bring it on............

I guess I should wait on that ITC install????

Shit, If i find one, will you send me a free ECU with the newly programmed one if I send one out? if so I will def.. watch how ever one is gonna say its their idea hah