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Topic subject2.4 arp head stud -general install check
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133704, 2.4 arp head stud -general install check
Posted by streetlightning, Apr-05-11 10:32 AM
Doing a final check before i start putting her back together. i imagine the 2.4 has the same torque down seq?

I was doing some searching and noticed, some do this, some dont...

" torqued/loosened the ARP head stud nuts five times to get them settled in (25-65-85-100 lbs) "

question is do i need to, if so , do i do it with the HG installed? or do the cycle of 4, pull head, and then do the final cycle of torque?

seq to follow:

1. TORQUE ALL CENTER BOLTS TO 25 FT LBS., TORQUE THE 4 CORNER BOLTS TO 25 FT LBS.

2. TORQUE ALL CENTER BOLTS TO 65 FT LBS., TORQUE THE 4 CORNER BOLTS TO 65 FT LBS.

3. RE-TORQUE ALL CENTER BOLTS TO 85 FT LBS., TORQUE THE 4 CORNER BOLTS TO 85 FT LBS.).

3. RE-TORQUE ALL CENTER BOLTS TO 100 FT LBS., TORQUE THE 4 CORNER BOLTS TO 100 FT LBS.

3. RE-TORQUE ALL CENTER BOLTS TO 100 FT LBS., TORQUE THE 4 CORNER BOLTS TO 100 FT LBS.

3. RE-TORQUE ALL CENTER BOLTS TO 100 FT LBS., TORQUE THE 4 CORNER BOLTS TO 100 FT LBS.


Using Mopar MLS + copper gasket spray and Arp hardware.

as for lubes i read this, : use Molly lube only on the nut to stud, not stud to block.

correct? thanks guys
133705, RE: 2.4 arp head stud -general install check
Posted by DarkOne, Apr-05-11 11:25 AM
Originally posted by streetlightning
i imagine the 2.4 has the same torque down seq?


Yes.

Originally posted by streetlightning
" torqued/loosened the ARP head stud nuts five times to get them settled in (25-65-85-100 lbs) "


I don't know anyone that does that; the instructions don't say to, and no one I've known has even loosened the studs as part of the step-up torquing.

Originally posted by streetlightning
question is do i need to, if so , do i do it with the HG installed?


You perform the torque sequence in steps (25-65-85-100 or whatever), with the headgasket installed, as part of the longblock assembly. You do not loosen the studs after a torque step. The whole point is that you don't want to torque them from 0 to 100ft/lbs in one step, as this can stretch the stud or damage the threads.

You only use the moly lube on the nut end.
133706, RE: 2.4 arp head stud -general install check
Posted by streetlightning, Apr-05-11 11:28 AM
sweeet.. i was reading a 2.4 post by code 4, as well as a few others where they were told (perhaps via arp site) to do the 5 cycle thing..) but ive never done it, thats why i was wondering, id never heard of it either
133707, RE: 2.4 arp head stud -general install check
Posted by DarkOne, Apr-05-11 12:26 PM
Originally posted by streetlightning
sweeet.. i was reading a 2.4 post by code 4, as well as a few others where they were told (perhaps via arp site) to do the 5 cycle thing..) but ive never done it, thats why i was wondering, id never heard of it either


Yeah, even stock head bolts have a step torque cycle.
133708, RE: 2.4 arp head stud -general install check
Posted by streetlightning, Apr-05-11 01:48 PM
i know about the stepping of torque, but i was refering to this post:
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=5&topic_id=127593&mesg_id=127593&listing_type=search

"torqued/loosened the ARP head stud nuts five times to get them settled in (25-65-85 lbs)"

the lossend part is throwing me off lol
133709, RE: 2.4 arp head stud -general install check
Posted by DarkOne, Apr-05-11 02:02 PM
Originally posted by streetlightning
i know about the stepping of torque, but i was refering to this post: http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=5&topic_id=127593&mesg_id=127593&listing_type=search "torqued/loosened the ARP head stud nuts five times to get them settled in (25-65-85 lbs)" the lossend part is throwing me off lol


Dave may have been doing that because he had to chase the threads in his block (per that post) to get the studs in. Perhaps he will comment on that.
133710, RE: 2.4 arp head stud -general install check
Posted by streetlightning, Apr-05-11 02:06 PM
ahhh missed that part..i should learn to read..: / lol thx for the quick reply's!