I had no other ideas why my 97 gs could be running so crappy. The timing all lines up but i decided to pull the valvecover thinking maybe the previous owner installed the cam gears wrong or something. I pulled the cam gears to see where the pins were because something didnt look right. After looking through lots of threads i think my problem is that my crower stage 2 cams are actually for a neon! I just want to get the car together so i grabbed the stock cams and the intake cam doesnt fit because the right end of the cam is too wide and wont fit into the groove behind the cam end plug. Do i have two exhaust cams? In the second picture you can see what i mean about the cam being to wide to fit in the intake spot. The pictures were taken with the holes in the cams all facing up. The stock cams are on the left, and the crowers are on the right.

Good for you for figuring it out. It appears you have one intake cam and 3 exhaust cams. Crap, I got someone here I gotta go but someone else will help you with the rest

Ok, I'm back. Getting a better look at things here, it appears you have at least a goofy cam in the middle. Looking at this pic;

Originally posted by reborn750

as we look at these from left to right (unfortunately I don't have a full pic of them). First one has the lobes in the direction of a 420a exhaust cam. The second one has the lobes in the direction of a 420a exhaust cam, The third one is goofy in that the hole is up, but the dowell pin is a little shy of 9 o'clock. That's a problem, lol, The last one is in the direction of a 420a intake cam.

(BTW, 420a = Eclipse)

Anyone have any clue what the middle right cam is from at all??? Do you think it would be okay to use the far right cam for intake and use one of the exaust cams on the right?

Originally posted by reborn750
Anyone have any clue what the middle right cam is from at all??? Do you think it would be okay to use the far right cam for intake and use one of the exaust cams on the right?

To get the car running right, thats what I would do. The far left and the far right, respectively. Should run a lot better. I have no idea what the deal with the middle right cam is....

Look at the profile on that"funny" one. It might be the angle of the dangle, but it sure appears that those lobes are lower profile and longer duration. I suspect a Crower boo-boo. For now, I would just put in the stockers and hope you didn't bend anyvalves.....

Originally posted by bullettdsm
a Crower boo-boo.

i died laughing when i read this