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132429, extreme temp threadlocker
Posted by 420agreenvilleSC, Nov-24-10 12:42 PM
so I wanted to get some advice. I've searched the net for threadlocker that WON'T fail or that is rated to withstand temps that are around that of a turbo hotside, turbo mani or cylinder head threads. Loctite and permatex, from what i've been able to find, only have products that can withstand 450-500 degrees. I need something around 900+ (or whatever wont fail with turbo related heat ranges).

I've seen just ONE, but it looks like the label was made by a 12 year old and I don't wanna spend money on what i don't know works: http://www.034motorsport.com/fluids-chemicals-extreme-temp-thread-locker-turbo-rated-p-609.html

these are the other two that just won't do:

1. Permatex (available at most auto part stores): http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/PERMATEX-Threadlocker-3DPK6?cm_mmc=Google%20Base-_-Adhesives,%20Sealants%20and%20Tape-_-Thread%20and%20Gasket%20Sealants-_-3DPK6

2. Loctite (same): http://www.restockit.com/0-5ml-threadlocker-262-permanent-(442-26205).html?source=froogle&Bvar5=100F1&Bvar6=100F1&Bvar7=100F1&utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=comparisonshopping

^^^sorry for the broken link^^^

My goal: A permenant solution for head, mani, and downpipe bolts from vibrating loose...
132430, RE: extreme temp threadlocker
Posted by Ebster1085, Nov-24-10 04:36 PM
No personal experience with that 034Motorsports high temp thread locker, but from what I have heard, they are a good company and make quality products.
132433, RE: extreme temp threadlocker
Posted by 420agreenvilleSC, Nov-24-10 06:07 PM
Originally posted by Ebster1085
No personal experience with that 034Motorsports high temp thread locker, but from what I have heard, they are a good company and make quality products.


i would agree with that. But when it comes to comparing the products that 034 makes with permatex & loctite, I would think they'd fall short. If loctite/perm. doesnt have a product on their line that does this, what would lead me to believe little old 034 would?

loctite/perm. does this type of thing for a living and they dont have anything like this, but 034 does? i dont want an "if" product. skeptical...
132434, RE: extreme temp threadlocker
Posted by dougie2, Nov-25-10 08:23 AM
The solution to your problem is not liquid thread locker. You need to use lock washers or all turbo system fasteners and torque them down real good.
132437, RE: extreme temp threadlocker
Posted by CODE4, Nov-25-10 11:54 AM
Agreed. Ustilize mechanical means to keep the fasteners secured. Mcmaster has an assortment.
132440, RE: extreme temp threadlocker
Posted by 420agreenvilleSC, Nov-25-10 01:45 PM
Originally posted by CODE4
Agreed. Ustilize mechanical means to keep the fasteners secured. Mcmaster has an assortment.


Thanks ya'll. Ill do that. I don't know what works best, can u tell me?
132443, RE: extreme temp threadlocker
Posted by bullettdsm, Nov-25-10 02:16 PM
Ironically, I use anti-seize with my turbo bolts, lol. I also use the correct grade bolts (I got no idea what grade for exhaust - I'm sure smarty pants Dave would know ;-)) with washers.

Whether I need the anti-seize or not has been debated (some say it burns off etc.), but what I do know, through all the theory, is that it works. 'Nuff said for me.
132447, RE: extreme temp threadlocker
Posted by 420agreenvilleSC, Nov-25-10 03:27 PM
what anti-seize do u use mark
132451, RE: extreme temp threadlocker
Posted by Ebster1085, Nov-25-10 07:27 PM
I have also always used antisieze in conjunction with lock washers.
132453, RE: extreme temp threadlocker
Posted by dougie2, Nov-25-10 11:58 PM
No need to order some regular old lock washers online from Mcmaster... just run down to your local auto parts store and buy them. If they don't have them listed for metric then get the standard equivalent size.

I also use anti-seize on all turbo system fasteners, ALWAYS. You can also get this shit at the parts store. I like the nickel stuff myself, but any type you get will work just fine. The copper will conduct electricity, for battery terminals and so forth. You can even pick up a small packet for spark plugs at the checkout lane for about a buck.

Anti-seize does not just burn off, that's ridiculous. Haha! Hell, the nickel shit that I'm using is rated to 2600 degrees! Now, the grease that makes up the base will smoke at first for a few minutes and eventually burn away... but the graphite, aluminum and nickel will remain on the threads and serve it's purpose.
132454, RE: extreme temp threadlocker
Posted by bullettdsm, Nov-26-10 02:52 AM
Originally posted by dougie2
Anti-seize does not just burn off, that's ridiculous.

Yeah try explaining that to the lawyer trolls out there. They got a theory on everything. You know the ones that tell you all day long about how to do something, but have never done any of it before ;-)
132456, RE: extreme temp threadlocker
Posted by dougie2, Nov-26-10 11:59 AM
Originally posted by bullettdsm
Originally posted by dougie2 Anti-seize does not just burn off, that's ridiculous.
Yeah try explaining that to the lawyer trolls out there. They got a theory on everything. You know the ones that tell you all day long about how to do something, but have never done any of it before ;-)


Tell me about it Mark, it seems like there's more and more of those guys that I meet every day. I think the internet plays a large part in that. If they read it somewhere on a message forum then it must be true!

Anyway, ANTI-SEIZE FTMFW! Haha! ;-)
132462, RE: extreme temp threadlocker
Posted by 420agreenvilleSC, Nov-26-10 08:25 PM
thanks for the insight doug. will do all that was discussed in here. good info. thanks everyone
132465, RE: extreme temp threadlocker
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Nov-27-10 09:16 AM
You can always safety wire them.