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124488, head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by scorpo86, Mar-08-09 11:32 AM
this is a easy thing to bo but im kinda scared. last time my car would mot start for the life of it when i did the build. i had to take it to three different shops to try to get it started and i dont want to go through that again.
tho uneducated I put a cheap head gasket on instead of the MLS and now im paying for it.(i was a newbe) its been leaking for a year and going turbo is not good with this leak. i have drain the lifters until you can push them with your finger, Right? pt Lifters, do they make a difference? I am useing copper spray because i have heard nothing bad about doing it.
im posting this because im scared that my car wont start after this again and i need to vent lol

arp
MLS( ive read that id can hold up boost really good)
new belt
124489, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by 420agreenvilleSC, Mar-08-09 12:27 PM
don't be scared, we love you :twitch
124490, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by CODE4, Mar-08-09 12:33 PM
After removing the head it is a good idea to check the deck for flatness - making sure you are not reinstalling a warped head. ARP hardware in my mind is a must. Many here will say to trust the MLS gasket from the dealer. Cometic is a good brand as well. Take your time, make sure everything is clean. It will go smoothly.

Additional things to consider replacing:
T-Belt (you mentioned that)
Cam seals - they are cheap - buy OEM ones
Depending on mileage, a water pump, idler/tensioner bearings, and associated T_belt components.
124494, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by scorpo86, Mar-08-09 04:51 PM
i played it smart with everthing other than the head gasket. new remanufactured head (it was so nice), oil and water pump.
lol and about me being scared, i am for real. i went trough hell on my first build because it wouldnt fire and i think i did the timing about 20 times and thats real numbers.
what about the lifters, i have to bleed them like i said, right?
The one thing that sucks is i have to wait a month to fix it because my roomate got a DUI and i have to dive him around for that month.(Im just venting, sorry lol)

I LOVE YOU TOO!!!!!

This is where im getting the MLS, what do you Think??

http://www.cimotorsports.net/motor-sport-products/felpro-mls-head-gasket-eclipsetalon-420a.html
124502, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by cs82685, Mar-08-09 08:18 PM
Originally posted by scorpo86
i played it smart with everthing other than the head gasket. new remanufactured head (it was so nice), oil and water pump. lol and about me being scared, i am for real. i went trough hell on my first build because it wouldnt fire and i think i did the timing about 20 times and thats real numbers. what about the lifters, i have to bleed them like i said, right? The one thing that sucks is i have to wait a month to fix it because my roomate got a DUI and i have to dive him around for that month.(Im just venting, sorry lol) I LOVE YOU TOO!!!!! This is where im getting the MLS, what do you Think?? http://www.cimotorsports.net/motor-sport-products/felpro-mls-head-gasket-eclipsetalon-420a.html


Bad idea. Not saying the felpro is necessarily a bad idea (I have no experience here to comment based on) but CI is notorious for being slow as shit.

Go here:

https://www.mitsubishiparts.com/oe_parts_catalog.html

You can get the OEM HG shipped for the same price CI has the felpro w/o shipping. You'll have an OEM gasket trusted by all and you'll have good customer service with quick shipping. I've probably placed 20 orders with them over the past few years and always got parts fairly quickly considering I'm on the other side of the country and they typically didn't have what I was buying in stock.

Two + weeks to get non-oem part from a less than helpful vendor or less time to get an oem part with a good reputation
124503, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by 420agreenvilleSC, Mar-08-09 08:38 PM
i totally agree. CI motorsports timing SUCKS. you can even get that HG at advanced or autozone.
124510, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by 97AllMtr, Mar-09-09 02:41 AM
I went with the fel pro head gasket kit. Best in my opinion, I have never had trouble with all the rebuilds I have done, very good quality. Also, they are the largest gaskets as far as the intake manifold and exhaust mani goes, if you have port work done.
124511, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by teklein, Mar-09-09 06:23 AM
Hey, look what I found in the wiki! Rocker/Lifter upgrade info.

http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Rockers

Dont order from CI. They send the wrong thing, then bitch that they messed up.
124515, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by bullettdsm, Mar-09-09 02:17 PM
Originally posted by teklein
Hey, look what I found in the wiki! Rocker/Lifter upgrade info. http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Rockers Dont order from CI. They send the wrong thing, then bitch that they messed up.

Atta boy (and a pat on the back, lol)!

124512, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by Fallen4ng31, Mar-09-09 06:33 AM
Originally posted by scorpo86
I LOVE YOU TOO!!!!!


It's gettin' mighty gay in here.




124516, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by 420agreenvilleSC, Mar-09-09 02:50 PM
Originally posted by Fallen4ng31
Originally posted by scorpo86 I LOVE YOU TOO!!!!!
It's gettin' mighty gay in here.


does the gayness that you THINK is here attract you into this thread?? hmmm.. paul paul... keep that to yourself
124519, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by scorpo86, Mar-09-09 03:56 PM
Originally posted by 420agreenvilleSC
Originally posted by Fallen4ng31
Originally posted by scorpo86 I LOVE YOU TOO!!!!!
It's gettin' mighty gay in here.
does the gayness that you THINK is here attract you into this thread?? hmmm.. paul paul... keep that to yourself

I think it did,:love lmao
i have one more question. i bored my engine .20 over can i still get a reg stock head gasket?
If i have to can someone point me to where i can get it because i looked. imo i think .20 is not a big change like a .40 and thats why they make hg for that size.
124542, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by scorpo86, Mar-10-09 07:23 PM
just ordered apex hg, and the belt and both idler pullys from parts dino. now just got to get the arp bolts
124546, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by dalesmitsu, Mar-10-09 11:28 PM
Originally posted by scorpo86
just ordered apex hg, and the belt and both idler pullys from parts dino. now just got to get the arp bolts


where you find the apex hg at
124549, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by bullettdsm, Mar-11-09 03:40 AM
Originally posted by dalesmitsu
Originally posted by scorpo86 just ordered apex hg, and the belt and both idler pullys from parts dino. now just got to get the arp bolts
where you find the apex hg at

Originally posted by scorpo86 just ordered apex hg, and the belt and both idler pullys from parts dino. now just got to get the arp bolts


124550, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by scorpo86, Mar-11-09 06:37 AM
apex HG:
http://www.store.partsdinosaur.com/product276.html
124551, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by teklein, Mar-11-09 07:55 AM
I just wanted to clarify something for dalesmitsu.

Its not an Apexi HG. Its an Apex. Kinda like Fel-Pro or what not.

At least I think thats why he was getting excited over it :shrug
124552, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by scorpo86, Mar-11-09 12:17 PM
Originally posted by teklein
I just wanted to clarify something for dalesmitsu. Its not an Apexi HG. Its an Apex. Kinda like Fel-Pro or what not. At least I think thats why he was getting excited over it :shrug


yea, i think so to.
124583, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by dalesmitsu, Mar-12-09 11:44 AM
Originally posted by scorpo86
Originally posted by teklein I just wanted to clarify something for dalesmitsu. Its not an Apexi HG. Its an Apex. Kinda like Fel-Pro or what not. At least I think thats why he was getting excited over it :shrug
yea, i think so to.


Nope, you're wrong but I'm curious about the brand besides Fel-Pro
124692, RE: head gasket change, scary for me anyway
Posted by scorpo86, Mar-19-09 08:19 PM
i have to bleed the lifters until they are easy to push down woth my fingers, right? then reinstall them like that?