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119084, Timing belt change, getting the crank pulley off!?!?!?!
Posted by Knight Rose, May-07-07 02:55 PM
I've got my book from orielly and 3 online guides, and I'm still stuck. I've gotten to the point where the only thing holding me back from getting to the timing belt is the crank pulley. I was able to get the bolt out of the center of the pulley, but now with a 5 ton, 3 jaw puller I am completely unsuccessful at getting it off.

I've bent 4 different bolts attempting to pull it off. Each time the same thing happens. I get to the point where its either the pulley is going to come off, or the bolt is going to bend. The bolt bends. Luckely I thought ahead and kind of expected this to happen, so all 4 bolts were not from the car. One was from the pulley set that autozone had, and the other 3 were different hex bolts from lowes. I am thinking that I just don't have strong enough bolts? Does anyone have any advice?

The specifics:
95 eclipse gs
auto
117k miles

TIA I do appreciate it.
119085, RE: Timing belt change, getting the crank pulley off!?!?!?!
Posted by DirtMegirt, May-07-07 03:29 PM
The way that I was able to remove mine was to buy a high grade bolt(8.8, 10.9) with the same length and thread as the stocker. Thread it in until it sits about a cm away from the pulley. Attach your puller and drive the puller bolt into the head of the pulley bolt. If you get it to budge, back the pulley bolt off another cm and repeat. Hopefully you we be successful in removing it.
119086, RE: Timing belt change, getting the crank pulley off!?!?!?!
Posted by cs82685, May-07-07 03:31 PM
are you using the correct puller meant for chrysler applications?
119087, RE: Timing belt change, getting the crank pulley off!?!?!?!
Posted by Knight Rose, May-07-07 04:47 PM
Originally posted by cs82685
are you using the correct puller meant for chrysler applications?


I saw that there was a chrysler harmonic balancer puller, but was unable to attain one. I have read that the 5 ton, 3 claw puller will work, but I cannot personally give testemony to that. lol

So far I've been using a bolt with a smaller diameter than the bolt that came out. Tomorrow I'll find a bolt the same as the stock and try it again.
119088, RE: Timing belt change, getting the crank pulley off!?!?!?!
Posted by dsmmyth, May-07-07 04:49 PM
I used the universal puller with a longer bolt the same threading as the OEM one. Comes right off.
119089, RE: Timing belt change, getting the crank pulley off!?!?!?!
Posted by scorpo86, May-10-07 03:37 PM
i have the same problem, i cant get mine off too so i have to take it to a shop just to get it off. this is one thing that i dont like about my 420a, the DAMN PULLEY!!!!. the 4g63t is only 4 bolts and comes off, thats it. other then that i love my 420a. the guy at the shop says just put the bolt in the hole and then put the puller on it, heat the pulley around the bolt hole, BUT DO NOT HEAT IT UP TO THE TEMP OF THE SUN. then pull and it should come off. it didnt work for me but it might wrok for you, GOOD LUCK!!!!
119090, RE: Timing belt change, getting the crank pulley off!?!?!?!
Posted by scorpo86, May-13-07 03:36 PM
YES!!! i got mine off but the pully did not survive. i had to use a air hammer then the bolt striped. OMG!!! i cant belive that it was that hard to take it off. well i have to buy a new pully but good luck with yours
119091, RE: Timing belt change, getting the crank pulley off!?!?!?!
Posted by bullettdsm, May-11-07 12:22 AM
Originally posted by cs82685
are you using the correct puller meant for chrysler applications?


Use the correct puller and she comes off like "butta". Use the 3 jaw (which I have used) and you will probably be quite frustrated. I believe Advance or Autozone have them for rent/deposit. Worth it.

119092, RE: Timing belt change, getting the crank pulley off!?!?!?!
Posted by azdave, May-11-07 03:20 AM
Autozone 5 ton 3-jaw
Part Number: 27078
Weight: 3.92 lbs.



I use this type from Autozone. It's tight to get it in place but it works for me every time. I also have a longer bolt and many washers to replace the stock bolt temporarily during the process. It helps walk the pulley off and also to pull the pulley back in place at rebuild time.
119093, RE: Timing belt change, getting the crank pulley off!?!?!?!
Posted by DR1665, May-11-07 06:05 AM
Autozone.
Chrysler Harmonic Damper Puller.
Rent one next time. (Or buy it. $25 or so)


Sure, you could tighten your lug nuts with a pipe wrench, but wouldn't you rather use a socket? The right tool makes all the difference in the world, imo.
119094, RE: Timing belt change, getting the crank pulley off!?!?!?!
Posted by dalesmitsu, May-11-07 10:14 AM
Originally posted by Knight Rose
I've got my book from orielly and 3 online guides, and I'm still stuck. I've gotten to the point where the only thing holding me back from getting to the timing belt is the crank pulley. I was able to get the bolt out of the center of the pulley, but now with a 5 ton, 3 jaw puller I am completely unsuccessful at getting it off. I've bent 4 different bolts attempting to pull it off. Each time the same thing happens. I get to the point where its either the pulley is going to come off, or the bolt is going to bend. The bolt bends. Luckely I thought ahead and kind of expected this to happen, so all 4 bolts were not from the car. One was from the pulley set that autozone had, and the other 3 were different hex bolts from lowes. I am thinking that I just don't have strong enough bolts? Does anyone have any advice? The specifics: 95 eclipse gs auto 117k miles TIA I do appreciate it.



How the steering wheel pully tool, I've read that someone used one and it worked but I think meant it for the final drive modd.

My step dad had same problem with my mom's 00' neon, she has same engine displacement but mines 2.0 DOHC and hers is 1.sohc something.

Spray PB blaster onit too, thats helps, He also used the same Pully that azdave posted a pic of.
119095, RE: Timing belt change, getting the crank pulley off!?!?!?!
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, May-11-07 03:33 PM
He is talking about pulling the harmonic dampner, not to be confused with the actual crank timing pulley. The timing sproket uses the steering wheel puller and a underdrive pulley will use one as well.

The harmonic dampner can be pulled with a 3 jaw 5 ton puller and obviously all belts need to be removed first. Use the process mentioned above by slowly backing out the bolt as you pull.

a 2000 neon has a 2.0L SOHC and the option motor was a 2.0L DOHC.

Terry
119096, RE: Timing belt change, getting the crank pulley off!?!?!?!
Posted by Knight Rose, May-16-07 01:26 PM
Update!

First, thanks for all the information. I used the 3 jaw puller from autozone with a bolt the SAME threading as the stock. A minute or so later and the crankshaft pulley was off. *rejoice* I've gotten through the whole timing belt change up to the point of getting the crankshaft pulley back on. Through many many searches and even a google or two I've found that I can:

1: Use a longer bolt with the same threading and washers to put it on.

2: Place pulley in position and wack it in with a hammer/rubber mallot. (found that this can damage bearings in engine)<-is this true?

3: Put pulley in oven and cook it until nice and hot. Take that with a good solid wack and pulley is on. (will this damage the bearings inside?)


I'm having trouble finding the bolt that will go in, but I found through searching again that a bolt of any GM truck will do. Going to call the local GM dealer to see if I can get one. Home Depot, Lowes, Autozone, and Orielly's couldn't meet my bolt needs... :(

Until tomorrow!
119097, RE: Timing belt change, getting the crank pulley off!?!?!?!
Posted by C L U T C H, May-19-07 04:47 AM
Originally posted by Knight Rose
2: Place pulley in position and wack it in with a hammer/rubber mallot. (found that this can damage bearings in engine)<-is this true?


I did that :p.. and i know it's true. since there is no support for our cars where i live.

This is the best option
1: Use a longer bolt with the same threading and washers to put it on.