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113690, Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by 2hot97GS, Sep-03-03 04:31 PM
ive been seriously looking into doing an evo motor swap in the GS for a few reasons, mainly being just different... im just looking to get a good discussion started on whats required and some helpful thoughts... also keep in mind.. i am working with Vineet on this (the man who built the twin engine talon) so... ive researched this as much as i can.. so any imput or things i may be missing are welcome cause hey 2000 heads are better than one.
113691, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by Michael_97RS, Sep-03-03 05:24 PM
Strip the engine bay, completely.
ECU
wiring harness (with extra wiring for any adjustment)
A good welder for custom mounts, piping, etc.
Wiring diagrams so you are able to either splice into stock gauges and interior wiring, plus make sure you get it all wired in right.
Custom throttle cable (probably), maybe custom trans linkage as well.
Custom driveshaft, or maybe HUB swap.
^ All depends on what trans you plan on using.
There's a matter of rolling diameter on your tires and speedometer calibrations.

And the number one thing: patience
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113692, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by 96eclipse2nr, Sep-03-03 05:29 PM
if i remember correctly, they put the cam gears on the pass side for the evo like ours so maybe the driveshaft is on the same side as ours. that would solve that issue. but then again youd still have motor mounts and well...everything else required for a 2g 4g63 engine swap.
113693, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by MotoFool, Sep-03-03 09:09 PM
buy donor 4g63 turbo car strip 2gnt strip 4g63 swap... *INSERT BLOOD TEARS LOTSA BEER AND FUN!*



laughs ata turbo 420a ina gst body ad having a gst title.. LMAO

bILL
113694, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by Diceman19, Sep-04-03 01:50 PM
off topic, is he gonna post any more vids of his twin engine talon any time soon?

i wish you good luck with your swap my friend. it will be a long drawn out process, just stick to it.
113695, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by 98Talon, Sep-14-03 08:02 AM
it would be a WHOLE lot easier if the car were a 2G turbo 4G63 car.
113696, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by The1Bill, Sep-14-03 09:13 AM
Yes and no- the drivetrain would be easier if the recipient car was an AWD, but the mounts in the engine bay are more compatable from the 420a then the US Spec 4G63. Then again, the wiring would be a bitch.
<shrug>

Someone try it and let us know. Mmmkay?

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113697, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by vtcomp, Sep-14-03 09:35 AM
remember you need an evo IV and up, you will have to use the transmission because the engine spins counterclockwise. the wiring won't be that bad if you use the evo wiring to run the engine, and splice the guages, etc. into the stock harness. for the axles the GST axles will work if you use the GST brakes. You will still probably have to make all of the mounts but I think it will be a lot more simple than swaping a US/cyborg 4g63.
113698, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by The1Bill, Sep-14-03 05:29 PM
Damn, it spins counterclockwise in relation to the crank pulley? Damn, there goes my cool, but crazy idea. ;(
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113699, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by vtcomp, Sep-15-03 03:58 AM
sorry dude. Just get a us lancer trans.
113700, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by The1Bill, Sep-15-03 01:54 PM
My crazy idea was to adapt the Evo driveline to a 420a, using an adaptor plate, custom clutch, whatever halfshafts fit, and putting the Evo rear diff in the GSX rear diff case. Ah well, it would have been cool. I guess I coul race in reverse, though...
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113701, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by Nackers, Sep-19-03 06:46 PM
>My crazy idea was to adapt the Evo driveline to a 420a, using
>an adaptor plate, custom clutch, whatever halfshafts fit, and
>putting the Evo rear diff in the GSX rear diff case. Ah well,
>it would have been cool. I guess I coul race in reverse,
>though...
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LMAO! I would love to see a Eclipse kick some honda ass in reverse! Holy shit that would be so funny.

Well back to the topic...
A guy took a EVO IV motor and drivetrain and swapped it into a 2001 Hyundai Accent so I believe you can do this with your 2gnt. It took the guy 2 years to complete but it was well worth it. Just take your time and post lots and lots of pics:).
113702, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by 98Talon, Sep-20-03 01:23 PM
ummm, an evo3 motor drops into a 2g 4g63 car....
113703, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by The1Bill, Sep-21-03 07:59 PM
Well, we were discussing the later Evo motor that is mounted like our trusty 420a.
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113704, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by Gregstoofast, Sep-30-03 10:19 PM
i dont know that much about the evo motors and everything swapin...but here pretty soon i'll be buildin a Honda CRX GSX... gettin 2 wrecks(no motors in either)and buyin everything needed from buschur racing...the light weight body of a gutted crx and the power of a turbocharged dsm...gotta love it...



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113705, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by corsagsbo, Oct-07-03 07:14 AM
QUOTE: "i dont know that much about the evo motors and everything swapin...but here pretty soon i'll be buildin a Honda CRX GSX... gettin 2 wrecks(no motors in either)and buyin everything needed from buschur racing...the light weight body of a gutted crx and the power of a turbocharged dsm...gotta love it..."

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fwiw... I know David Buschur, and the CRX he built had over $15,000 just in the chassis... and still was a major beyatch to keep straight down the track.




420a and ej20... much boost by both
113706, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by KidEvo, Oct-11-03 11:40 PM
A cool idea for a swap would be a mitsubishi FTO MIVEC V6 engine swapped into a 420a, then turbo it. mivec is kinda like vtec without the rice.
113707, RE: Serious questions about Evo swap...
Posted by Dave_FL, Oct-14-03 03:17 PM
I am against engine swaps. Unless its a honda. Those are easy. But why even waste your time and money? If you want to be different paint your car pink with purple polka dots. This reminds me of the infamous "Can i put a 4g63 in my GS/RS?"