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Topic subject2.4 Brothern I need Your Aid
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107171, 2.4 Brothern I need Your Aid
Posted by TheGhost, Dec-18-07 01:15 PM
I have used to Search button but failed to come up with any knowledge that I can call concrete.

I have read skrilla's write up about the 2.4 swap. I consider this the very first of my useful information. I understand that I can use a 2.0 head with a 2.4 block but which head gasket do I use. I also realize that a motor mount must be made on which side. I read that I can advance the magnet or rewire the injectors was that with the 2.4 head or the 2.0 head.

I have lots of questions and I believe it be time for a write up of how to do it ... I bought the block got a spare head from another 2gnt and just want to know how much I really am about to get myself into. I also am going to turbo this motor and would like to know what exactly can I do to prepare for this.

I understand that the 2.4 take much more air than a 2.0 and I wonder will the 2.0 computer be able to handle such mass amounts or will I have to take it to get the ecu reflashed. What would be a good ecu alternitive. As well as the difficulty of making the bracketry. Please help winters here and I want to Ricky Bobby by Summer. Thank You all 2G gods who reply ...

I have nothing to offer but my dignity I would my pride but my girl has that underneath the kitchen cabinet.
107174, RE: 2.4 Brothern I need Your Aid
Posted by micyek, Dec-18-07 01:01 AM
Originally posted by TheGhost
I understand that I can use a 2.0 head with a 2.4 block but which head gasket do I use.

Not only can you...it would be very to use the 2.0L Head. 2.0 Headgasket.

I also realize that a motor mount must be made on which side.

Passenger side.

I read that I can advance the magnet or rewire the injectors was that with the 2.4 head or the 2.0 head.

Advance the Cam position Sensor 90* AND Rewire the injector harness. 1to2 2to3 3to4 an 4to1

I have lots of questions and I believe it be time for a write up of how to do it.

http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=2.4L_Discussion_by_Skrilla
There is a lot more info in the forums...just keep looking.

These are my bookmarks from when I did the swap. I read them all...several times. I guess that's why I didn't have to ask many question.
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=49686
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=28862
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12217
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=61886
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=48349
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=65936
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=86448
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=86463
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=83005
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=32&topic_id=1292
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=14130


I bought the block got a spare head from another 2gnt and just want to know how much I really am about to get myself into.

It's not for beginners.

I also am going to turbo this motor and would like to know what exactly can I do to prepare for this.

heh. That's all depends on what you want to do with the car.

I understand that the 2.4 take much more air than a 2.0 and I wonder will the 2.0 computer be able to handle such mass amounts or will I have to take it to get the ecu reflashed.

I think you need to read a little more on how to turn your car. I run the stock ECU just fine.

What would be a good ecu alternitive.

Lots of ppl use MegaSquirt...but I'm afraid you a little over your head already.

As well as the difficulty of making the bracketry.

That part was the easiest for me. I don't really understand why ppl stress about it so much.

Just remember...baby Steps. My suggestion for you would be to turbo you stock block. Learn the ins and outs of the 420A and learn how to tune before you delve into the 2.4. You'll be able to use alot of the hardware and knowledge when you make the leap.

107182, RE: 2.4 Brothern I need Your Aid
Posted by goalie40, Dec-18-07 12:23 PM
Originally posted by micyek
Originally posted by TheGhost I understand that I can use a 2.0 head with a 2.4 block but which head gasket do I use.
Not only can you...it would be very to use the 2.0L Head. 2.0 Headgasket.
I also realize that a motor mount must be made on which side.
Passenger side.
I read that I can advance the magnet or rewire the injectors was that with the 2.4 head or the 2.0 head.
Advance the Cam position Sensor 90* AND Rewire the injector harness. 1to2 2to3 3to4 an 4to1
I have lots of questions and I believe it be time for a write up of how to do it.
http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=2.4L_Discussion_by_Skrilla There is a lot more info in the forums...just keep looking. These are my bookmarks from when I did the swap. I read them all...several times. I guess that's why I didn't have to ask many question. http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=49686 http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=28862 http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12217 http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=61886 http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=48349 http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=65936 http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=86448 http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=86463 http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=83005 http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=32&topic_id=1292 http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=14130
I bought the block got a spare head from another 2gnt and just want to know how much I really am about to get myself into.
It's not for beginners.
I also am going to turbo this motor and would like to know what exactly can I do to prepare for this.
heh. That's all depends on what you want to do with the car.
I understand that the 2.4 take much more air than a 2.0 and I wonder will the 2.0 computer be able to handle such mass amounts or will I have to take it to get the ecu reflashed.
I think you need to read a little more on how to turn your car. I run the stock ECU just fine.
What would be a good ecu alternitive.
Lots of ppl use MegaSquirt...but I'm afraid you a little over your head already.
As well as the difficulty of making the bracketry.
That part was the easiest for me. I don't really understand why ppl stress about it so much. Just remember...baby Steps. My suggestion for you would be to turbo you stock block. Learn the ins and outs of the 420A and learn how to tune before you delve into the 2.4. You'll be able to use alot of the hardware and knowledge when you make the leap.


+1
this is a good route make your 2.0 a 2.2 stroker. alot less work zero fab work. buy a stroker 2.2 kit and build or have the block built. almost all the benefits of a 2.4. you can run a little bigger turbo with better spool up cause you are moving more air.

look em up
howellautomotive.com

107187, RE: 2.4 Brothern I need Your Aid
Posted by TheGhost, Dec-19-07 03:31 AM
So if I can use a huge cam and get away with it why not use the connecting rods and pistons out of the 2.4 if the bearings sizes are the same.
107188, RE: 2.4 Brothern I need Your Aid
Posted by DarkOne, Dec-19-07 04:12 AM
Originally posted by TheGhost
So if I can use a huge cam and get away with it why not use the connecting rods and pistons out of the 2.4 if the bearings sizes are the same.


The same as what? they're not the same, 2.0L vs 2.4L.
107197, RE: 2.4 Brothern I need Your Aid
Posted by alain95i4, Dec-19-07 03:43 PM
http://aseclub.net/forums/24-swap-infos-t67755.html

my 2.4 how to on the ASEC board

not a job for the beginners

Alain
107198, RE: 2.4 Brothern I need Your Aid
Posted by goalie40, Dec-19-07 04:18 PM

one of the 2.4 true pionners

focus on those words he is the guy that would know.
107207, RE: 2.4 Brothern I need Your Aid
Posted by 99atxdsm, Dec-20-07 10:36 AM
Originally posted by TheGhost
So if I can use a huge cam and get away with it why not use the connecting rods and pistons out of the 2.4 if the bearings sizes are the same.


Definitely need to read through all those previously posted threads thoroughly. As they say "Read till your eye's bleed!" All your questions can be answered in Alain's write-up and the other collective 2.4 threads.