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Topic subjectwont start after installing used head,think might be timing off,please help!!!
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106505, wont start after installing used head,think might be timing off,please help!!!
Posted by tjfoleyjr24, Oct-12-07 05:07 PM
my timing belt tentioner pully took a crap on me and bent two valves.so i bought a good used head,but wont start now after install,geting no spark,i think it might be my timing.i also installed adjustable cam gears and underdrive pully.i set the timing by the manual,but read a post where a guy had same problem and had his 180 out of timing,because one dowel pin goes up and the other down.and i have both of mine up,thats how they went in,i just adjusted the marks where they lined up.so do i need to have one up and one down,and if so witch one goes up and which on goes down.if i did it that way the adjustment mark scale one one will be up and one will be down.is this correct.i have checked every thing else.all wiring is hooked up,sensors fine both crank and cam sensors are new,along with coil,plugs,wires,im getting gas and sometimes blue flame out of header when try to start .but not trying to fire,fuel pump kicks on,cell comes on.only thing im ify on is timming.ill post picks tomarrow dark and cold now.please help guys need to get venge on the road again.thanks guys

my pics engine pics inside
ill take close up picks of timing tomarrow
(new timing pics)
http://s181.photobucket.com/albums/x252/tjfoleyjr25/?
106506, RE: wont start after installing used head,think might be timing off,please help!!!
Posted by RoninEclipse2G, Oct-13-07 04:36 AM
99% chance you're 180* out on at least one cam.
106507, RE: wont start after installing used head,think might be timing off,please help!!!
Posted by twinvenges, Oct-13-07 06:49 AM
agreed, same thing as u were told on asec, your 180 deg off , and dont forget to degree those cam gears or youll cause major carnage to the head.. if i remeber correctly ,@ TDC exhaust pin is down, and intake is up? not 100% sure, but i think thtas right
106508, RE: wont start after installing used head,think might be timing off,please help!!!
Posted by DR1665, Oct-13-07 07:34 AM
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106509, RE: wont start after installing used head,think might be timing off,please help!!!
Posted by tjfoleyjr24, Oct-13-07 09:08 AM
thanks for the help guys.i did have on cam out 180 it was the exhaust cam.im going to reset the timing now,all ready have the belt off,just have to reassemble after i zero out the cam gears.i hope everything is right this time,and theres no bent valves.i aded some new pics of timing does this look right.i still need to zero out the gears.thanks again guys
106510, RE: wont start after installing used head,think might be timing off,please help!!!
Posted by twinvenges, Oct-13-07 09:16 AM
ther are holes in the cams, @ TDC, both holes in the cams should be facing up , and perpandicular to the head/ valve cove mating surface.
106511, RE: wont start after installing used head,think might be timing off,please help!!!
Posted by tjfoleyjr24, Oct-13-07 03:38 PM
well i reset the timing i was 180 off on the exhaust cam,started right up first try,runs great no noises at all,thank again for the help guys.