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105904, Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by dalesmitsu, Aug-29-07 01:18 AM
I've found those Champions#430 CopperPlus on Adavanceauto .com for 1.49 but the stores near don't have them is this False advertisement.
I just bought NGK's BKR6ES-11's what the difence btween thse and the BKR5ES11's.
I own a NT w/CAI should gap theBkr6 11 what the Ideal gap for these on the NT Dsm
Soory wrong Area for this Thred it should in Things We've Seen before, We've seen this a millions times :)
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105905, RE: Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by dalesmitsu, Aug-29-07 01:24 AM
Originally posted by dalesmitsu I've found those Champions#430 CopperPlus on Adavanceauto .com for 1.49 but the stores near don't have them is this False advertisement. I just bought NGK's BKR6ES-11's what the difence btween thse and the BKR5ES11's. I own a NT w/CAI should gap theBkr6 11 what the Ideal gap for these on the NT Dsm Soory wrong Area for this Thred it should in Things We've Seen before, We've seen this a millions times :)
Where can Buy The GROUNDING KIT, wanting to buy the STREETWIRES brand If avaible. what would the price be and place too.
I think grounding is for the BATTery and Starter. Not sure this true but this is what I've Been told though.
Alots of Thanks in Advance
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105907, RE: Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by RoninEclipse2G, Aug-29-07 05:17 AM
Originally posted by dalesmitsuOriginally posted by dalesmitsu I've found those Champions#430 CopperPlus on Adavanceauto .com for 1.49 but the stores near don't have them is this False advertisement. I just bought NGK's BKR6ES-11's what the difence btween thse and the BKR5ES11's. I own a NT w/CAI should gap theBkr6 11 what the Ideal gap for these on the NT Dsm Soory wrong Area for this Thred it should in Things We've Seen before, We've seen this a millions times :) Where can Buy The GROUNDING KIT, wanting to buy the STREETWIRES brand If avaible. what would the price be and place too. I think grounding is for the BATTery and Starter. Not sure this true but this is what I've Been told though. Alots of Thanks in Advance the BKR6ES-11 is one heat range colder, good for turbo or lots of highway driving. they are pre gapped at 1.1mm or .44in
for grounding, just replace all your factory grounds with some better quality 4ga wire, if you really want to go all out, run everything to the ground connection by the battery. I used monster cable cause I was working at a stereo shop at the time.
there are several grounds, the major being the battery and starter. other places you can ground is the alternator BIG difference there. there's a ground on the intake manifold at the throttle cable bracket. I'm gonna try running the coil ground straight to the battery and see if that helps, I've heard of it making a difference on other distributorless ignitions
Edit: I'm pretty sure I have the BKR6es in my car now and I'm NA still, I think it's the BKR7es that the turbo guys run. tell me if I'm wrong guys.
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105921, RE: Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by dalesmitsu, Aug-29-07 04:59 PM
Originally posted by RoninEclipse2GOriginally posted by dalesmitsu Originally posted by dalesmitsu I've found those Champions#430 CopperPlus on Adavanceauto .com for 1.49 but the stores near don't have them is this False advertisement. I just bought NGK's BKR6ES-11's what the difence btween thse and the BKR5ES11's. I own a NT w/CAI should gap theBkr6 11 what the Ideal gap for these on the NT Dsm Soory wrong Area for this Thred it should in Things We've Seen before, We've seen this a millions times :) Where can Buy The GROUNDING KIT, wanting to buy the STREETWIRES brand If avaible. what would the price be and place too. I think grounding is for the BATTery and Starter. Not sure this true but this is what I've Been told though. Alots of Thanks in Advance the BKR6ES-11 is one heat range colder, good for turbo or lots of highway driving. they are pre gapped at 1.1mm or .44in for grounding, just replace all your factory grounds with some better quality 4ga wire, if you really want to go all out, run everything to the ground connection by the battery. I used monster cable cause I was working at a stereo shop at the time. there are several grounds, the major being the battery and starter. other places you can ground is the alternator BIG difference there. there's a ground on the intake manifold at the throttle cable bracket. I'm gonna try running the coil ground straight to the battery and see if that helps, I've heard of it making a difference on other distributorless ignitions Edit: I'm pretty sure I have the BKR6es in my car now and I'm NA still, I think it's the BKR7es that the turbo guys run. tell me if I'm wrong guys.
Huh? BKR6ES-11 are pre gap to .44 so I can just put them in without gapping them and call it a day.
Counterperson at Advance told me these are Not Pre-Gap
I also have Accel 8mm wires can I reuse them They still good but its been awhile since I changed my plugs. Ho long do the Accel 8mm wires last. I like them alot but MSD 8.5mm are cheaper theyre listed at autozone.com for 48.98 Accels are 50 at Advance.
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105925, RE: Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by eclipsekaiser, Aug-29-07 06:48 PM
Originally posted by RoninEclipse2GOriginally posted by dalesmitsu Originally posted by dalesmitsu I've found those Champions#430 CopperPlus on Adavanceauto .com for 1.49 but the stores near don't have them is this False advertisement. I just bought NGK's BKR6ES-11's what the difence btween thse and the BKR5ES11's. I own a NT w/CAI should gap theBkr6 11 what the Ideal gap for these on the NT Dsm Soory wrong Area for this Thred it should in Things We've Seen before, We've seen this a millions times :) Where can Buy The GROUNDING KIT, wanting to buy the STREETWIRES brand If avaible. what would the price be and place too. I think grounding is for the BATTery and Starter. Not sure this true but this is what I've Been told though. Alots of Thanks in Advance the BKR6ES-11 is one heat range colder, good for turbo or lots of highway driving. they are pre gapped at 1.1mm or .44in for grounding, just replace all your factory grounds with some better quality 4ga wire, if you really want to go all out, run everything to the ground connection by the battery. I used monster cable cause I was working at a stereo shop at the time. there are several grounds, the major being the battery and starter. other places you can ground is the alternator BIG difference there. there's a ground on the intake manifold at the throttle cable bracket. I'm gonna try running the coil ground straight to the battery and see if that helps, I've heard of it making a difference on other distributorless ignitions Edit: I'm pretty sure I have the BKR6es in my car now and I'm NA still, I think it's the BKR7es that the turbo guys run. tell me if I'm wrong guys.
7e are one range colder (I use them in my turbo). He is looking for one range hotter ie: 5e. 6e-11 is stock range that is gapped at .44 (I think). Get the basic without the notation -11 behind the plug. Go with NGK. Can't go wrong with it... Gap to stock specification
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105929, RE: Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by dalesmitsu, Aug-30-07 01:46 AM
Originally posted by eclipsekaiserOriginally posted by RoninEclipse2G Originally posted by dalesmitsu Originally posted by dalesmitsu I've found those Champions#430 CopperPlus on Adavanceauto .com for 1.49 but the stores near don't have them is this False advertisement. I just bought NGK's BKR6ES-11's what the difence btween thse and the BKR5ES11's. I own a NT w/CAI should gap theBkr6 11 what the Ideal gap for these on the NT Dsm Soory wrong Area for this Thred it should in Things We've Seen before, We've seen this a millions times :) Where can Buy The GROUNDING KIT, wanting to buy the STREETWIRES brand If avaible. what would the price be and place too. I think grounding is for the BATTery and Starter. Not sure this true but this is what I've Been told though. Alots of Thanks in Advance the BKR6ES-11 is one heat range colder, good for turbo or lots of highway driving. they are pre gapped at 1.1mm or .44in for grounding, just replace all your factory grounds with some better quality 4ga wire, if you really want to go all out, run everything to the ground connection by the battery. I used monster cable cause I was working at a stereo shop at the time. there are several grounds, the major being the battery and starter. other places you can ground is the alternator BIG difference there. there's a ground on the intake manifold at the throttle cable bracket. I'm gonna try running the coil ground straight to the battery and see if that helps, I've heard of it making a difference on other distributorless ignitions Edit: I'm pretty sure I have the BKR6es in my car now and I'm NA still, I think it's the BKR7es that the turbo guys run. tell me if I'm wrong guys. 7e are one range colder (I use them in my turbo). He is looking for one range hotter ie: 5e. 6e-11 is stock range that is gapped at .44 (I think). Get the basic without the notation -11 behind the plug. Go with NGK. Can't go wrong with it... Gap to stock specification
What do you mean by the notation-11 Well if thse BKR6ES-11 are already gap to .44 would hurt if Keep like they are straight from the box.44 and install them.
I've read that another owner gap his below stock gap specs.
Just wondering if I could and also how long due Accel 8mm wires last?
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105930, RE: Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by dalesmitsu, Aug-30-07 02:04 AM
Originally posted by dalesmitsuOriginally posted by eclipsekaiser Originally posted by RoninEclipse2G Originally posted by dalesmitsu Originally posted by dalesmitsu I've found those Champions#430 CopperPlus on Adavanceauto .com for 1.49 but the stores near don't have them is this False advertisement. I just bought NGK's BKR6ES-11's what the difence btween thse and the BKR5ES11's. I own a NT w/CAI should gap theBkr6 11 what the Ideal gap for these on the NT Dsm Soory wrong Area for this Thred it should in Things We've Seen before, We've seen this a millions times :) Where can Buy The GROUNDING KIT, wanting to buy the STREETWIRES brand If avaible. what would the price be and place too. I think grounding is for the BATTery and Starter. Not sure this true but this is what I've Been told though. Alots of Thanks in Advance the BKR6ES-11 is one heat range colder, good for turbo or lots of highway driving. they are pre gapped at 1.1mm or .44in for grounding, just replace all your factory grounds with some better quality 4ga wire, if you really want to go all out, run everything to the ground connection by the battery. I used monster cable cause I was working at a stereo shop at the time. there are several grounds, the major being the battery and starter. other places you can ground is the alternator BIG difference there. there's a ground on the intake manifold at the throttle cable bracket. I'm gonna try running the coil ground straight to the battery and see if that helps, I've heard of it making a difference on other distributorless ignitions Edit: I'm pretty sure I have the BKR6es in my car now and I'm NA still, I think it's the BKR7es that the turbo guys run. tell me if I'm wrong guys. 7e are one range colder (I use them in my turbo). He is looking for one range hotter ie: 5e. 6e-11 is stock range that is gapped at .44 (I think). Get the basic without the notation -11 behind the plug. Go with NGK. Can't go wrong with it... Gap to stock specification What do you mean by the notation-11 Well if thse BKR6ES-11 are already gap to .44 would hurt if Keep like they are straight from the box.44 and install them. I've read that another owner gap his below stock gap specs. Just wondering if I could and also how long due Accel 8mm wires last?
This was from Advanceautoparts.com Part#5553 BKR6ES-11 Standard Spark Plug: DOHC; 4 Per Car; Gap .05S-11
It says its a the standard plug, why it says gap .05s-11
Does this mean they are pre gap to .05 or .44
Thanks for the help and having the cool search too.
If someone could answer this I think it'll clear up this plug gapping debate
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105931, RE: Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by eclipsekaiser, Aug-30-07 02:41 AM
Oppps. Senior moment. 6e-11 will be fine for your NA application.
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105932, RE: Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by totaleclipse_05, Aug-30-07 04:35 AM
Buy a spark plug gap tool and figure it out for yourself if they are .44 or .50.
They are about .99
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105936, RE: Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by djtrickee, Aug-30-07 06:23 AM
FYI- No need to make millions of posts when you can edit.

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105941, RE: Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by RoninEclipse2G, Aug-30-07 08:55 AM
the -11 means it's pre gapped to 1.1 millimeters.
you can find all the meanings of the numbers on ngk spark plugs here
double checking the gap never hurts
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105953, RE: Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by dalesmitsu, Aug-30-07 06:32 PM
Originally posted by RoninEclipse2Gthe -11 means it's pre gapped to 1.1 millimeters. you can find all the meanings of the numbers on ngk spark plugs here double checking the gap never hurts
Thanks this helps some
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105962, RE: Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by edxmon, Aug-31-07 11:05 AM
Use high count 4ga. copper wire for your grounding, buy a bag of those end-ring connectors, oppen your hood and get on it. I used DR1665 picture from his old ground wire kit to do mine. I'll try to fish it up and post it on there ASAP.
EDIT: My laptop is broken, so I just cooked up another one with one of my old engine pics-

EDIT 2: I took a minute and added a quick write up for the Wiki, I put it under "Safety" because I didn't think any of the other places would be adecuate.
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105976, RE: Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by dalesmitsu, Sep-01-07 11:35 PM
Originally posted by edxmonUse high count 4ga. copper wire for your grounding, buy a bag of those end-ring connectors, oppen your hood and get on it. I used DR1665 picture from his old ground wire kit to do mine. I'll try to fish it up and post it on there ASAP. EDIT: My laptop is broken, so I just cooked up another one with one of my old engine pics-  EDIT 2: I took a minute and added a quick write up for the Wiki, I put it under "Safety" because I didn't think any of the other places would be adecuate.
Wow this how our DSM grounding laid out Diagram from Chiltons Neat gonna have to buy this book.
Thanks
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106047, RE: Where to BUY Champion 430-NGK BKR5-11's Posted by dalesmitsu, Sep-05-07 11:27 PM
Originally posted by dalesmitsuOriginally posted by edxmon Use high count 4ga. copper wire for your grounding, buy a bag of those end-ring connectors, oppen your hood and get on it. I used DR1665 picture from his old ground wire kit to do mine. I'll try to fish it up and post it on there ASAP. EDIT: My laptop is broken, so I just cooked up another one with one of my old engine pics-  EDIT 2: I took a minute and added a quick write up for the Wiki, I put it under "Safety" because I didn't think any of the other places would be adecuate. Wow this how our DSM grounding laid out Diagram from Chiltons Neat gonna have to buy this book. Thanks
Could you message your Pic of your grounds from your engine bay.
thanks again
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