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104996, rod selection
Posted by scorpo86, Jun-29-07 08:57 PM
i have been looking for rods but whats the difference of long eagle rods and short rods. (performance wise) will i have to time to engle different if i get long rods of will i fell any difference at all
thanks
105002, RE: rod selection
Posted by RS-T, Jun-30-07 05:47 PM
Longs rods increase torque by increasing the time the piston dwells at TDC.

There's also the stroker kit you could go with. You can make even more power with one. A storker kit consists of a shaved down crank thus being able to yield a longer rod and having a longer stroke, hence the name. This brings in more air and fuel to make a bigger boom.

Money wise your better off going with some Eagle long rods. They will withstand up to 500hp. Your probably not going to be breaking that anytime soon.

Hope that helps you out a bit.
105003, RE: rod selection
Posted by DR1665, Jun-30-07 06:49 PM
Pretty sure the long rods provide a more favorable rod ratio, meaning not only will they give you a bit better torque, but the engine will like high rpm running more than stock. A stroker will have a less favorable rod ratio and will result in your not being able to wind the engine out as high as stock.

Eagle is a good brand and will hold up long time if you take care of them. Going with the long rods is the best compromise in price and performance among stock, long rod, and stroker builds. Stroker will require custom crank, rods, and piston. Long rods are custom in themselves, and use your stock crank, which is a major cost savings.
105005, RE: rod selection
Posted by scorpo86, Jun-30-07 08:03 PM
so long rod is a better bang for my buck..so i dont have to do anything different in the timing if i go long? i am also going to get forged pistons,what would be the best choice? there is wiseco,JE, and Arias pistons that im looking at. i'm going with the 8 to 1 set up cuz i want a turbo soon... thanks guys :thumbsup
105011, RE: rod selection
Posted by RS-T, Jul-01-07 09:58 AM
Go with Wiseco or JE pistons.
105012, RE: rod selection
Posted by goalie40, Jul-01-07 11:30 AM
I have read on the forum that some peeps have cracked wiseco's. The JEs seen to hold up better.
105016, RE: rod selection
Posted by scorpo86, Jul-01-07 06:40 PM
but with long rods i still keep everything the same, the timing. will it give it less clearence that it already doesnt have
105024, RE: rod selection
Posted by 2GeclipseRS, Jul-02-07 10:42 AM
Also, when using long rods, do you have to use a long rod specific piston?

*not trying to hijack, this helps me just as much as it helps you. I'm slapping a t25 on soon and building up a shortblock*
105104, RE: rod selection
Posted by 2GeclipseRS, Jul-07-07 01:46 PM
Bump and answer.

You need long-rod specific pistons.

This just in from my drag racing/car audio guru buddy across the street from me.

The wrist pin has to be higher up otherwise the piston will hit your valves and you will throw things, drop f-boms and have to spend more money than you should have in the first place.....
105124, RE: rod selection
Posted by scorpo86, Jul-08-07 04:49 PM
thanks, i think that i'm just going to go with the crower rods. i know they are a lot of slave hours :cry , but it would make me feel better that my rods can take what i dish out. i going with them and with the 8to1 je pistons.