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103975, Low Idle and oil light when warm. (kinda long, sorry) Posted by hs_elrod, Apr-22-07 04:28 PM
Can my oil light come on due to a low idle? (600 or so)
I had 5 problems after my last head gasket.
1. sloppy idle - retiming fixed that 2. overheating - second fan wasn't turning on fixed that (with the jumper mod) 3. massive vac leak - replaced TB gasket fixed that 4. low idle when warm 5. oil light flickers on and off at low idle/ when warm
I am wandering if the last 2 remaing issues can be related, so I am attempting to t shoot the low idle first.
here are what haynes says VS. what I found on AIC and TPS.
TPS HAYNES says base line between pin 1 and 3 is 3.5-6.5k ohms mine is 4.94k ohms
HANES says that between pins 2 and 3 is should change smoothly while rotating throttle plate and all readings should be within spec. mine does change smoothly but by WOT it is at 1.32k ohms
Should I replace TPS or is HAYNES full of crap?
AIC HAYNES says that between pins 1 and 4 as well as pins 2 and 3 I should read 38-52 ohms I read 51.7 between 1 and 4 and 53.8 between 2 and 3.
Should I replace AIC or is HAYNES full of crap?
Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post.
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103976, RE: Low Idle and oil light when warm. (kinda long, sorry) Posted by totaleclipse_05, Apr-22-07 06:59 PM
Do you have the factory oil sender in still? If not, do u have a oil pressure gauge hooked up and if so, what are you seeing for oil pressures?
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103977, RE: Low Idle and oil light when warm. (kinda long, sorry) Posted by VelocitaPaola, Apr-22-07 08:19 PM
Originally posted by hs_elrod Can my oil light come on due to a low idle? (600 or so)
Sure. Oil pressure is determined by two things, oil temperature and engine RPMs.
I don't know what mods you've done, but on my car, with the melling oil pump, starter cranking RPMs (~600) weren't sufficient to generate suitable oil pressures (even while cold).
Once your oil warms up and thins, I would imagine that 600 RPMs is low enough to trip the oil pressure sending unit. You should find out what's causing such a poor idle ASAP. Low oil pressure is a pretty serious symptom, whatever the cause may be.
By the way, it's called an IAC (idle air controller), not AIC.
-http://www.symtechlabs.com/-
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103978, RE: Low Idle and oil light when warm. (kinda long, sorry) Posted by hs_elrod, Apr-23-07 04:28 AM
I do have the factory sending unit, though it is Teed off for
the turbo oil line. It is not turboed yet, just have the
exhaust side and oil lines hooked up. I dont have a OP gauge.
The T looks like this
Turbo Oil
Oil Sender
Line Unit
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It is not using any oil either.
The low idle seems currable by simply inching over the
throttle cable to open the plate a tad when idling. I know
this isn't the desirable cure, but leads me to think TPS or
IAC.
Do the above numbers suggest I need to replace either?
Should I be searching for more VAC leaks?
Also I am suspect of my CTS or the wiring to it, considering
my secondary fan trouble. Could CTS affect idle when warm?
I have no CELs.
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103990, RE: Low Idle and oil light when warm. (kinda long, sorry) Posted by hs_elrod, Apr-23-07 03:15 PM
Ok well I have pretty much decided I have a bad IAC.
I took the above readings whith the engine cold. Took it for a drive and then got 54 ohms between pins 1 and 4 and 59 ohms between pins 2 and 3 with it warm. I took the sensor inside and put it under a fan taking readings all the while, both readings slowly fell down to the above readings as the IAC cooled.
I then put the throttle body back on (engine still warm) and the car idled fine.
Anyone know a good place to get one cheap? 49 bucks at Autozone.
Thanks again for the responses.
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