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103735, Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by Slimyjr., Apr-04-07 06:32 AM
In the near future,i will be rebuilding my engine. The rebuild if for the turbo so that should give you an idea of the internals(i.e. forged pistons, etc.) For you turbo guys who have rebuilt your engine, pls post what it cost you(including parts, machining, etc.) TIA!
103736, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by VelocitaPaola, Apr-04-07 08:37 AM
$1,300 for bottom-end rebuild kit (from CI Motorsports). That included 8.8:1 JE pistons, Eagle rods, water pump, Melling oil pump, clevite bearings, ARP headbolts, MLS headgasket, no timing equipment and lower-end gasket kit.

$130 for mechanical timing belt kit from Part Dinosaur.

$150 for hot tanking, boring and honing the block by local shop.

$125 for balancing the rotating assembly by local shop.

$40 for miscellaneous lube, oil, coolant, RTV, anaerobic sealant.

$60 to rent an engine hoist for a day.

$8 for seven boxes of Bandaids.

Those are all the expenses I can think of... so it was about $2,800 in all.


103742, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by shazow1969, Apr-04-07 10:52 AM

Head and top end: $2250.00
Rotating assembly: $1250.00
Block machining and balancing rotating assembly: ~$500.00
Oil pump: $100.00
Water Pump: $50.00
ARP head and header studs: ~$300.00
Mechanical timing tensioner conversion with belt: $120.00
Misc fluids RTV and Gaskets: ~$400.00

And I'm really sure I am missing a couple things here and I'm not counting Fuel and spark control. So it's really damn close to $5000.00 in the last year into just my engine. Mind you I haven't gone turbo yet (yes I'm gonna boost my high compression engine). This is very expensive way to go but I am not disappointed at where my money went.

-Kevin
103743, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Apr-04-07 11:14 AM
$5,200
103749, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by talon749, Apr-04-07 05:03 PM
im in about $270 so far with just machine work
103755, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by Slimyjr., Apr-05-07 05:04 AM
Keep em' coming guys!
103756, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by XtremeRS, Apr-05-07 05:39 AM
Figure in at least 3k...Thats just for a forged rebuild, with machine work, not assembled by someone else..This includes new oil pump, all gaskets, waterpump, timing belt and components. Dont forget all the misc items such as oil/filter, coolant, spark plugs, wires, hoses/clamps, assembly lube, special tools, rtv, and other related engine items..providing you assemble it yourself..Headwork machining and upgrading head parts will add to this figure very quickly lol..
103769, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by darkclark, Apr-05-07 12:24 PM
first time
it had 2 broke pistons
put back to oem by local shop $2500

this time
nothing wrong to start with and leaving the 9000 mile oem valvetrain alone
callies stroker crank
eagle rods
je pistons
arp head studs
$3000
103771, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by MR BLUNT 2gnt, Apr-05-07 02:36 PM
I remember handing over about 2700 when it was all said and done. I think 3k is a safe assumption depending on how much machine work you chose to have done. All the little stuff adds up so quick.
103773, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by shazow1969, Apr-06-07 02:04 AM
3k is a good number if you are planning to leave the top end pretty much alone aside from a valve job and seals. If you want to get a little more agressive like I did and do Cams, P&P head, 3 angle VJ, A set of springs and locks, maybe SS Valves. Then you are looking at another 2k easliy. Ask Driggs he's got over $1500 in his head alone if I'm not mistaken. I have pretty close to $1400 in mine not counting the cams, cam gears, lifters, rockers, or gaskets. An engine build is not a cheap thing.

-Kevin
103786, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by xceler8, Apr-07-07 03:27 PM
I was in about 5k on all parts and machine work. I did the labor myself.
103791, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by bullettdsm, Apr-08-07 12:32 AM
Hmm.....

JE 10.5's; $500
Crower 2's used; $250
SS valves; $150
MLS HG; $100
Stock head studs; $20
main and rod bearing; $70
Gaskets and seals; $180
Timing crap; $200
water pump; $40
All machine work; $550

Total; $2060

Stock studs are fine up to 250whp ish, IMO. Boosting, go ARPS
103810, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by fullmoon, Apr-08-07 05:36 PM
What's this?

Mechanical timing tensioner conversion with belt: $120.00
103831, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by bullettdsm, Apr-09-07 10:40 AM
Originally posted by fullmoon
What's this? Mechanical timing tensioner conversion with belt: $120.00

Search, my young man, search......

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=100288&mode=full



103860, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by zestridge_, Apr-11-07 03:36 AM
4200... overbore.com... only takes 4 weeks, I just ordered it yesterday.
103864, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by jack_of_trades, Apr-11-07 11:41 AM
You paid $4200 for a rebuilt STOCK engine?
103865, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by RoninEclipse2G, Apr-11-07 12:32 PM
Originally posted by jack_of_trades
You paid $4200 for a rebuilt STOCK engine?


That's insane!
103870, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by goalie40, Apr-11-07 05:41 PM
I have a stock trannie I can sell you 10000 and it yours :)
103871, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by msl-man, Apr-11-07 05:50 PM
Not a bad way to spend $10,000 dollars. haha
103872, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by msl-man, Apr-11-07 06:34 PM
Engine Rebuild:
Pistons and rings 8.8:1 .20+ 80mm -$549.99
Rods (Eagle) - $399.00
Head Studs (ARP) - $153.00
Valve Springs & Titanium retainers +
Stainless Steel Valves (standard) - $520.00
Camshafts (0014)(Crane) - $475.00
Rocker Arms+
Lash Adjusters(PT Cruiser 2.4) - $257.72
Adjustable Cam Gears(Fidanza) - $189.00
Rebuild Labor - $1,200.00

Turbo System/Mechanical:
Hahn Racecraft stage II w/FMIC Late fuel kit - $3,570.99
Turbo Upgrade 20G - $300.00
Blowoff Valve Greddy type RS - $230.99

Fuel System:
Hahn Portfueler Hahn $1,045.00

Exhaust System:
3" Downpipe Hahn $399.00
Thermal Exhaust Hahn $599.00
Test Pipe Hahn $99.00
Electronics:
Multi-Band Sensor (Innovate motorsports) - $399.00
2 Stage Boost controller Greddy $378.00
Remote Switch/Boost controller

Drivetrain:
Quaife Limited Slip Differential(Quaife) - $1,200.00
Stage 4 Clutch - $783.00

Ignition:
MSD DIS 2 - $606.98

Giving us a grand total of $12570.68 (I think)
Pretty much most of the major stuff. Sorry about the crappy formatting. It looks better as the original excel spreadsheet I made with brands and where it was ordered. If anyone wants to take a look at it just PM me.

103873, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by zestridge_, Apr-11-07 08:14 PM
4200 for rebuilt performance engine, turbo ready setup...

1. 420A block, turbo ready block assy.

2 Wiseco Forged pistons. W/rings (8.6:1 ratio/.020 overbore)

3. Eagle performance custom rods

4. New main Studs/Bolts

5. New Brass freeze plugs

6. Block painted black

7. New oil pump front cover Melling Performance

8. New oil drive gears

9. Line boring, decking, boring, and plateau honing of block

10. Assembly of the shortblock

11. Balance the rotating assembly

12. File Fit Pistons rings

13. New ACL performance bearings (Rods, Mains and Thrust)

14. Crankshaft index Ground

15. Blueprinting of the shortblock

17. Full gasket set

18. New OAW performance Water pump

20. Timing Belt, Idlers, Tensioners

21. Fidanza Indexable Cam Gears

HEAD--------------------------------------------------------------
1. Head (STAINLESS SP PERFORMANCE valves)

A. Silica-bronze guides

2. New lifters

3. Crower Performance springs and Retainers

4. New Valve Locks

5. ARP head studs

6. MLS head gasket Cometic

7. New cam seals

8. Crower Cams stage II 64462-2

10. Rocker cover gaskets

11. Rocker arms (set of 16)

12. Street polish & port

103876, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by RoninEclipse2G, Apr-12-07 05:07 AM
well, that makes a little more sense
103884, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by BoostedEclipse, Apr-12-07 05:11 PM
Well the wiseco 8.8:1 pistons were $450 I think. The Eagle H-beam rods were like $350 and the machining was $750 since I worked there.
103885, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by DR1665, Apr-12-07 06:22 PM
If I'm remembering right, I dropped $1500 on the first bottom end kit from Gottude (now defunkt). Second set of pistons when the Wisecos shit the bed on me ran just a hair over $500. Given the head was $1700, the cams ran me $450, and the gears were $100 used, I'd say I've easily put $6k into the engine bay including misc odds and ends. Closer to $7k if you count the AFX ECU, MSnS, and wideband.

Jesus. I could have left it stock, bought a running Galant VR4, prepped it for stage rally, and completed an entire season for that much. :rolleyes

If you're going to boost the engine, invest in a solid bottom end rebuild.

If you're going to play all motor for a bit, put about $2000 into the head and leave the bottom end alone if you can.
103887, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by techboy, Apr-13-07 04:45 AM
I had to do it twice b/c I blew my first motor after about 900 miles. A main rod bearing spun on me. So I spent $3000 .... twice.
103888, RE: Post cost of your engine rebuild!!
Posted by WIDECLIPSE, Apr-13-07 05:49 AM
It was a little less than 2 grand. And that was with them assembling the block for me.