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101403, Finished rebuild...Engine not running properly!! Need Help Please!!
Posted by CodeR, Oct-16-06 05:59 PM
I have just finished my rebuild with the following:

Weisco 8.8:1
Eagle rods
Crower stage 2 turbo grind cams
Crower springs and retainers
fidanza cam gears
SPEC stage 3+ clutch
SPEC alum. flywheel
cometic head gasket
PEP SS Valves

...the only thing not done basically is P&P head and intake, ignition and oversized valves.

Now here are the problems....

-Car idles like shit, sounds like i have big block cams in it.
-Three CEL's
-Rich condition detected (bank 1)
-Barometric pressure something or other...
-Coolant temp. sensor voltage is too high

Now, when i try to drive it...the car leans out to the 15's and 16's on the wideband. This happens right about/same time clutch begins to engage...but give it some gas and its fine. Also, the idile itself is lean. The computer is giving a rich fuel code, so could the computer trying to compensate and making it idile so lean?

And, the timing on everything is even and the cam gears are all set to 0. There is no exhaust piping after the 3" downpipe...that cuz im waiting for it to arrive. So, the rear O2 is just dangeling there but im not getting a code from it though. No sensors have been replaced or anything yet. So could anyone please help me out here. I'm sorry if there is another topic on this but i do not have the time right now to search and im running out of time. Im trying to have this run properly by this saturday for a show. Thank you all for any help.
101405, RE: Finished rebuild...Engine not running properly!! Need Help Please!!
Posted by cc8balla, Oct-16-06 07:37 PM
You didn't flip one of the cams over 180* did you?
101406, RE: Finished rebuild...Engine not running properly!! Need Help Please!!
Posted by BlackMagic, Oct-17-06 03:07 AM
Originally posted by CodeR
I have just finished my rebuild with the following: Weisco 8.8:1 Eagle rods Crower stage 2 turbo grind cams Crower springs and retainers fidanza cam gears SPEC stage 3+ clutch SPEC alum. flywheel cometic head gasket PEP SS Valves ...the only thing not done basically is P&P head and intake, ignition and oversized valves. Now here are the problems.... -Car idles like shit, sounds like i have big block cams in it. -Three CEL's -Rich condition detected (bank 1) -Barometric pressure something or other... -Coolant temp. sensor voltage is too high Now, when i try to drive it...the car leans out to the 15's and 16's on the wideband. This happens right about/same time clutch begins to engage...but give it some gas and its fine. Also, the idile itself is lean. The computer is giving a rich fuel code, so could the computer trying to compensate and making it idile so lean? And, the timing on everything is even and the cam gears are all set to 0. There is no exhaust piping after the 3" downpipe...that cuz im waiting for it to arrive. So, the rear O2 is just dangeling there but im not getting a code from it though. No sensors have been replaced or anything yet. So could anyone please help me out here. I'm sorry if there is another topic on this but i do not have the time right now to search and im running out of time. Im trying to have this run properly by this saturday for a show. Thank you all for any help.


You'll probably get an answer faster from searching, especially if you said u aren't willing to search no ones going to want to help you.
101407, RE: Finished rebuild...Engine not running properly!! Need Help Please!!
Posted by CodeR, Oct-17-06 06:09 AM
I never said I wasn't willing to search, I just said i didnt have much time to. Between my job and trying to get this car running properely...i dont have time to do anything.
101408, RE: Finished rebuild...Engine not running properly!! Need Help Please!!
Posted by djtrickee, Oct-17-06 06:30 AM
Originally posted by cc8balla
You didn't flip one of the cams over 180* did you?


His car wouldn't even start if one of his cams was flipped...


Originally posted by CodeR
I never said I wasn't willing to search, I just said i didnt have much time to. Between my job and trying to get this car running properely...i dont have time to do anything.


Search for the P-codes of the CELs you got. That will give you the answers, Time to start testing or replacing the sensors related to those codes...
101409, RE: Finished rebuild...Engine not running properly!! Need Help Please!!
Posted by Blizare, Oct-17-06 06:53 AM
re-set the ecu and start it up again and see what codes you have.
101410, RE: Finished rebuild...Engine not running properly!! Need Help Please!!
Posted by DR1665, Oct-17-06 06:54 AM
It sounds like timing being off, to me. Did you degree-in the cams at all? Granted, the only thing I haven't done is install cam gears, so I can't say if there is any potential for error when installing the gears. Even so, it really sounds like timing being off to me.

:shrug
101413, RE: Finished rebuild...Engine not running properly!! Need Help Please!!
Posted by djtrickee, Oct-17-06 06:58 AM
Originally posted by DR1665
It sounds like timing being off, to me. Did you degree-in the cams at all? Granted, the only thing I haven't done is install cam gears, so I can't say if there is any potential for error when installing the gears. Even so, it really sounds like timing being off to me. :shrug


I'm going to say it has to do with one of these...

Originally posted by CodeR
-Three CEL's -Rich condition detected (bank 1) -Barometric pressure something or other... -Coolant temp. sensor voltage is too high


Probably the 1st is DUE to the second 2...
101424, RE: Finished rebuild...Engine not running properly!! Need Help Please!!
Posted by CodeR, Oct-17-06 12:39 PM
I have a second MAP sensor so i will pop that in and see if anything changes. The last time i checked timing was dead-on but i will double check again. Thank you all for your help and keep any more ideas coming.