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Forum nameManual Trans - NV-T350
Topic subjectDINO!!! (or other tranny gods) tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
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3752, DINO!!! (or other tranny gods) tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by tim97rs, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
i need some help on where to start my problem solving.
was on way to school this am and felt a tiny little "pop" when i pushed the clutch in. it went into gear okay that time (after the "pop" feeling), but then when i came to a light it wouldn't go back into any gear at all from neutral. the clutch pedal feels normal, the shifter moves freely in all direction but just stops short of actualy engaging the gears.

there is/was no grinding or weird noises at all. clutch fluid is fine, and i havent done anything tranny related at all in terms of messing something up!!what might i be looking at as far as being broken, so i know where to start?

i am quite ignorant about trannys! thanks
3753, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by run4cvr, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Check the bracket on the tranny where the cable attach. Make sure both 'clips' are there.
3754, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by tim97rs, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
they are there. Everything shifting related all looks normal....
3755, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
to clearify: you say it wont go in gear meaning the shifter wont move into gear or the shifter moves but trans does not engage? What about when you shut it down and try to go into gear and start up with the clutch in?

Terry

96 Eagle Talon ESI....Daily driver

97 Eclipse.........
3758, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by tim97rs, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
to clearify: you say it wont go in gear meaning the shifter wont move into gear or the shifter moves but trans does not engage? What about when you shut it down and try to go into gear and start up with the clutch in? Terry 96 Eagle Talon ESI....Daily driver 97 Eclipse.........


the shifter moves but wont move far enough to get into gear, its like it stops half way and wont go any farther, in all gears. it wont go in regardless of what i do.
3759, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Hard to tell without actually pulling apart so bear with me if i am wrong. Sounds like the Selector shaft is the problem since it wont go into any gear. if it were just 2 gears with a problem say 1-2 or 3-4 i would lean towards shifter forks. At any rate i think what you were looking for is inside the trans and requires being pulled apart.

If the pin snapped on the selector shaft you would probably get full range of motion on the shifter,then again there is no way to tell where the "debris" went to. if a stop ring shattered i would expect only the loss of 2 gears 1-2 or 3-4 or 5-r.

Dino your thoughts?

Terry

96 Eagle Talon ESI....Daily driver

97 Eclipse.........
3765, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by siueclipse, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
will the car go into gear when its off or is it the same whether its on or off?
3766, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
to clearify: you say it wont go in gear meaning the shifter wont move into gear or the shifter moves but trans does not engage? What about when you shut it down and try to go into gear and start up with the clutch in? Terry 96 Eagle Talon ESI....Daily driver 97 Eclipse.........


the shifter moves but wont move far enough to get into gear, its like it stops half way and wont go any farther, in all gears. it wont go in regardless of what i do.

Everything you wish you had, and then some...

96 Eagle Talon ESI....Daily driver

97 Eclipse.........
3767, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by DarkOne, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Hard to tell without actually pulling apart so bear with me if i am wrong. Sounds like the Selector shaft is the problem since it wont go into any gear. if it were just 2 gears with a problem say 1-2 or 3-4 i would lean towards shifter forks. At any rate i think what you were looking for is inside the trans and requires being pulled apart. If the pin snapped on the selector shaft you would probably get full range of motion on the shifter,then again there is no way to tell where the "debris" went to. if a stop ring shattered i would expect only the loss of 2 gears 1-2 or 3-4 or 5-r. Dino your thoughts? Terry 96 Eagle Talon ESI....Daily driver 97 Eclipse.........


I think you're overcomplicating this. I'd be willing to bet money it's cable issue.
3768, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by tim97rs, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
:scratch :wtf :scratch :wtf
uhm... okay.... now it works just fine sitting in the drive way, shifts without any issue at all. all i did since the origional post was tow it home behind a truck, with the engine running. that was wednesday. now it works... what the hell?

is my shit on the verge of going tits up? is this some kind of warninig? what are some reason it would do this? Dino, if it is a cable issue, what am i looking for? i kinda dont wanna go driving it all over town now untill im sure.
3769, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by DarkOne, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Look at the linkage under the center console, and look at the linkage on the trans itself. make sure the clips that hold those cables in place have not come out.
3771, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by tim97rs, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by DarkOne
Look at the linkage under the center console, and look at the linkage on the trans itself. make sure the clips that hold those cables in place have not come out.


every clip is in place, there is no slop or slack on any cable. all is properly secured!

next idea...?
3783, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by DarkOne, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Does it shift when you use the gear select arms on the trans itself?

Could be a clutch issue, could be internal.
3782, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by 96NTeclipse, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
does the trans shift fine while driving it now? after it began shifting in your driveway? If it doesn't it could be a clutch issue.
3784, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by tim97rs, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
just sittin there not unning, it goes in and out of gears normaly whether i use the clutch or not. before, when it was sitting there right after it happened, it wouldn't go into gear period! while driving around the block (didn't want to get to far away)it shifted normaly as well.

i have a very slow tranny fluid leak from one of my seals, could this possibly be from a low fluid level...?
3785, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by DarkOne, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by tim97rs
i have a very slow tranny fluid leak from one of my seals, could this possibly be from a low fluid level...?


Doubt it. I drove on a trans with no fluid in it for a week and it shifted fine, until i ate the syncros apart :-)

If its fine now, don't worry about it.
3788, RE: DINO!!!!!!!!!!!!! tanny poo-poo...wont go into any gear from neutral
Posted by tim97rs, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
okay... thanks guys!
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