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Topic subjectsmall metal pieces in bottom of pan??
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3243, small metal pieces in bottom of pan??
Posted by Chip176583, Aug-24-04 03:32 PM
I chnaged my tranny fluid today and at the bottom of the pan I ended up finding the normal amount of small shavings on the magnet but also these small pieces of metal. What do you think they could be??

3244, RE: small metal pieces in bottom of pan??
Posted by ShadowRuleZ, Aug-25-04 06:17 AM
Stick a pencil in there so we can get an idea of the scale. I doubt they are small enough to go through the transmission; I wonder if they came off of a filter. First look they look like gasket pieces, but you said they were metal, so they aren't gaskets.
3245, RE: small metal pieces in bottom of pan??
Posted by xcasbonx, Aug-25-04 06:47 AM
I can't tell what those pieces are but damn that shit shouldn't be sitting in the bottom of your pan. Hows the tranny acting?


Rebuild FINISHED!
VT 2.0 Shortblock
Built head by ERT, Crower stage 2 cams
Fidanza adj. cam gears
port matched intake manifold
High stall torque converter
Transgo Shift kit
GST Muffler
injen short ram intake
GSX dual piston calipers
3246, RE: small metal pieces in bottom of pan??
Posted by soulcontroller, Aug-25-04 07:25 AM
i was going to say the same thing, i really dont know what that is, and ive had my trans apart :\
3247, RE: small metal pieces in bottom of pan??
Posted by InFiNiT3, Aug-25-04 07:55 AM
they look like rotted pan gasket pieces to be honest w/ ya. there is nothing thaT looks like that in the tranny internals , and ive been through mine 3 times (dont ask) lol but ya stick a pen in the pic or even a quarter if they r that small. plus if u can break one if half and let up see the inside.. i am willing to bet they are remnents of an old gasket
3249, RE: small metal pieces in bottom of pan??
Posted by Chip176583, Aug-25-04 06:31 PM
Hey, I hope that the pieces are from part of the old gasket only thing is that they are metal. The tranny has been running pretty smooth I would say. The pieces of metal to me look like ends of a snap ring. Are there any snap rings inside of the transmission?? Also here is a picture of the pieces to scale. let me know what you think



3250, RE: small metal pieces in bottom of pan??
Posted by xcasbonx, Aug-26-04 03:39 AM
I don't see how a snapring could have broke up inside the tranny and made its way down there but I guess it could be possible. I think the remnants of a trans pan gasket sounds more than likely.


Rebuild FINISHED!
VT 2.0 Shortblock
Built head by ERT, Crower stage 2 cams
Fidanza adj. cam gears
port matched intake manifold
High stall torque converter
Transgo Shift kit
GST Muffler
injen short ram intake
GSX dual piston calipers
3253, RE: small metal pieces in bottom of pan??
Posted by soulcontroller, Aug-26-04 05:52 AM
well, there is a snap ring holding up an actuator piston *shrug*
3254, RE: small metal pieces in bottom of pan??
Posted by Chip176583, Aug-26-04 06:46 AM
Originally posted by soulcontroller
well, there is a snap ring holding up an actuator piston *shrug*


so how bad would it be if its that??
3255, RE: small metal pieces in bottom of pan??
Posted by InFiNiT3, Aug-26-04 07:43 AM
nope i am def 100% sure that is a snap ring...!!!!!!could be dangerious. id puul your valve body and check the accuators.. most lickly came from there... also its always good to clean your valvbody out too when doing any type of tranny maintance...*USE A OIL BASED CLEANER* like paint thinner... no de-geasers , no laquer thinners, no 409's!! brakes cleaner works too.
but if i were u i'd def. pull the valve body....one of those pieces gets into your valvbody and its trans burn city!
jake

"THE ATX GOD"
3257, RE: small metal pieces in bottom of pan??
Posted by Chip176583, Aug-26-04 08:21 AM
Originally posted by InFiNiT3
nope i am def 100% sure that is a snap ring...!!!!!!could be dangerious. id puul your valve body and check the accuators.. most lickly came from there... also its always good to clean your valvbody out too when doing any type of tranny maintance...*USE A OIL BASED CLEANER* like paint thinner... no de-geasers , no laquer thinners, no 409's!! brakes cleaner works too. but if i were u i'd def. pull the valve body....one of those pieces gets into your valvbody and its trans burn city! jake "THE ATX GOD"


Thanks for the help, but Im a lil bit confused of what u mean by valve body and accuators. If you could clear this up it would be great
3259, RE: small metal pieces in bottom of pan??
Posted by InFiNiT3, Aug-26-04 10:58 AM
ok when u remember when u pulled your pan and filter there was an aluminum plate with about 40 bolts in it? lol thats your valve body. remover the tranny linkage and slide it down about 3-4 inches on your right side-closest to the front of the car there will be a lil snap ring (hard as hell to see) remove that and continue to drop the valve body/ (do this very slowly and as level as possible to pistons (accuators) will drop w/ it so be carfull and remember where everything goes. after this u should be able to see where that broken snap ring is :)

jake

"THE ATX GOD"
3260, RE: small metal pieces in bottom of pan??
Posted by xcasbonx, Aug-26-04 11:00 AM
Read this thread, even though it is for a shift kit install, it can help you understand the valvebody some and how to get it out, and what to look out for.

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=33&topic_id=3201&mesg_id=3201&page=

If you have the funds and what some harder/quicker shifts for your A604, get the transgo shift kit.



Rebuild FINISHED!
VT 2.0 Shortblock
Built head by ERT, Crower stage 2 cams
Fidanza adj. cam gears
port matched intake manifold
High stall torque converter
Transgo Shift kit
GST Muffler
injen short ram intake
GSX dual piston calipers